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I am wondering how many and who in enterprises are using Google cloud? I understand few startups, typically associated with Google in some way, are using google

by akg_67 13y ago

I am wondering how many and who in enterprises are using Google cloud? I understand few startups, typically associated with Google in some way, are using google cloud. I just can't imagine many enterprises putting up with poor customer service and ego of Google.

h1karu 13y ago
Amazon’s Elastic Load Balancer (ELB) is not designed to handle sudden spikes. Customers need to request AWS to pre-warm the ELB to get it ready to handle the expected load. This requires a subscription to AWS support. GCE’s Load Balancer doesn’t require pre-warming. It scales instantly to support spiky traffic. Compute Engine Load Balancing hits 1 million+ requests per second with no pre-warming.
- jamiesonbecker 13y ago
  You can pre-warm without a support subscription if you want to take the time (and know how) to do it yourself.
  - h1karu 13y ago
    fair enough.. I didn't realize there was a good solution to pre-warm yourself but I suppose it makes sense that it should be possible. My intention with the comment was to point out that we're not comparing apples with apples when it comes to flexibility of the core infrastructure.. and load balancing is about as core as it gets. Both platforms have features that the other doesn't have for example GCE has Persistent Disks that can be connected to multiple VMs. Amazon has ElastiCache and a DNS service, etc
    - jjh42 13y ago
      Btw. Google now has a similar DNS service https://developers.google.com/cloud-dns/what-is-cloud-dns https://developers.google.com/cloud-dns/what-is-cloud-dns
    - akg_67 13y ago
      My intention with the comment was to point out that we're not comparing apples with apples when it comes to flexibility of the core infrastructure.. and load balancing is about as core as it gets. I believe you missed the point of my original question. IME, Enterprises don't make decisions based on feature comparison. They make decision based on the benefits they receive and how a service addresses their problems. When Enterprises consider Cloud providers, they don't start by saying we are not going to consider a specific cloud provider because it is missing some XYZ feature. The evaluation and purchasing decision starts with who are the cloud providers and then some high level decisions based on impressions of decision-makers involved of these providers. Google hasn't had a positive reputation in the enterprise. The intent of my original question is to understand what is Google approach to sales process for the Enterprise? How successful Google have been in approaching Enterprises to use its cloud offerings? And how Google has been overcoming objections from the Enterprise. Or is there approach similar to their other services: Self-help, all information online, review yourself and decide whether you want to use Google service or not?
      - h1karu 13y ago
        If I hear the word Enterprise again I swear I'm going to vomit. :P Who cares what the Enterprise is doing ? You should be asking what Google is doing to attract the smartest web startups who will be tomorrow's Enterprise :)
        craigvn 13y ago
        Hardly any start ups ever get to Enterprise scale.
freehunter 13y ago
I work for a large enterprise using Google's cloud. It's quite a different experience from using our own servers to handle the same thing. We are now at the whim of a company that doesn't always announce changes until they've happened, and those changes don't always work within our business model. Yes, it's a nightmare.
- akg_67 13y ago
  Just curious why did you chose Google cloud over AWS or Rackspace. Migrating from internal servers to public cloud makes sense in some instances. Have you looked at private cloud for example using OpenStack or vCloud?
  - freehunter 13y ago
    The business moved to Google Apps for email and document editing. As soon as that happened, development teams began to see an "in" to getting cloud services (previously disallowed) because "it's just Google!" That escalated to basically anything "Google" is allowed, so everyone is using Google.

by akg_67 13y ago

h1karu 13y ago

Amazon’s Elastic Load Balancer (ELB) is not designed to handle sudden spikes. Customers need to request AWS to pre-warm the ELB to get it ready to handle the expected load. This requires a subscription to AWS support. GCE’s Load Balancer doesn’t require pre-warming. It scales instantly to support spiky traffic. Compute Engine Load Balancing hits 1 million+ requests per second with no pre-warming.

jamiesonbecker 13y ago
You can pre-warm without a support subscription if you want to take the time (and know how) to do it yourself.
- h1karu 13y ago
  fair enough.. I didn't realize there was a good solution to pre-warm yourself but I suppose it makes sense that it should be possible. My intention with the comment was to point out that we're not comparing apples with apples when it comes to flexibility of the core infrastructure.. and load balancing is about as core as it gets. Both platforms have features that the other doesn't have for example GCE has Persistent Disks that can be connected to multiple VMs. Amazon has ElastiCache and a DNS service, etc
  - jjh42 13y ago
    Btw. Google now has a similar DNS service https://developers.google.com/cloud-dns/what-is-cloud-dns https://developers.google.com/cloud-dns/what-is-cloud-dns
  - akg_67 13y ago
    My intention with the comment was to point out that we're not comparing apples with apples when it comes to flexibility of the core infrastructure.. and load balancing is about as core as it gets. I believe you missed the point of my original question. IME, Enterprises don't make decisions based on feature comparison. They make decision based on the benefits they receive and how a service addresses their problems. When Enterprises consider Cloud providers, they don't start by saying we are not going to consider a specific cloud provider because it is missing some XYZ feature. The evaluation and purchasing decision starts with who are the cloud providers and then some high level decisions based on impressions of decision-makers involved of these providers. Google hasn't had a positive reputation in the enterprise. The intent of my original question is to understand what is Google approach to sales process for the Enterprise? How successful Google have been in approaching Enterprises to use its cloud offerings? And how Google has been overcoming objections from the Enterprise. Or is there approach similar to their other services: Self-help, all information online, review yourself and decide whether you want to use Google service or not?
    - h1karu 13y ago
      If I hear the word Enterprise again I swear I'm going to vomit. :P Who cares what the Enterprise is doing ? You should be asking what Google is doing to attract the smartest web startups who will be tomorrow's Enterprise :)
      - craigvn 13y ago
        Hardly any start ups ever get to Enterprise scale.

freehunter 13y ago

I work for a large enterprise using Google's cloud. It's quite a different experience from using our own servers to handle the same thing. We are now at the whim of a company that doesn't always announce changes until they've happened, and those changes don't always work within our business model. Yes, it's a nightmare.

akg_67 13y ago
Just curious why did you chose Google cloud over AWS or Rackspace. Migrating from internal servers to public cloud makes sense in some instances. Have you looked at private cloud for example using OpenStack or vCloud?
- freehunter 13y ago
  The business moved to Google Apps for email and document editing. As soon as that happened, development teams began to see an "in" to getting cloud services (previously disallowed) because "it's just Google!" That escalated to basically anything "Google" is allowed, so everyone is using Google.