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I wonder if this means that 3.14 will make it into Ubuntu 14.04. Would be nice not to have a franken-kernel for a LTS release.

uulbiy 13y ago
I would assume that 3.12 would be used instead since it's the latest long-term stable release of the kernel.
- dvirsky 13y ago
  FWIW I'm already using 14.04 beta2, and the kernel there is 3.13.0-20. This means the stable version will be 3.14, doesn't it?
  - pantalaimon 13y ago
    Why would you conclude that?
    - dvirsky 13y ago
      I remembered odd versions were unstable, but looking at the kernel info, 3.13 is a stable version. So I'm guessing they'll stick with that.
      - pantalaimon 13y ago
        > I remembered odd versions were unstable this stopped being true very long ago (with the beginning of the 2.6 series)
        dvirsky 13y ago
        TIL :)
  - baldfat 13y ago
    Kernel freeze is April second so this means that they "should" be able to update the kernel to 3.14 but its Ubuntu and you never know.
- skion 13y ago
  I think that would then be the first time that Ubuntu LTS is piggybacking on an LTS kernel. With 3.12 already 6 months old that seems unlikely to me given Ubuntu's usual attempts to support modern hardware.
- zanny 13y ago
  If they don't use 3.14 they won't have complete Intel broadwell support. Since those chips will come out and be the primary source of new 14.04 installs, they either need to release a point release with a new kernel around the product launch or get 3.14 in now. Of course they could backport those patches to their kernel.
  - brandon 13y ago
    The kernel and X stack get regular backports over the life of the LTS release (since Precise): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
- Zigurd 13y ago
  I upgraded to the 14.04 LTS beta and uname -r returns 3.13.0-19-lowlatency for me.
Spittie 13y ago
It's possible, as the Kernel Freeze is on April 3rd (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule).
sajithdilshan 13y ago
Ubuntu 14.04 already uses 3.14 kernel in daily images. You can download the .deb from here. http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.14-trusty/ http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.14-trusty/
skion 13y ago
Not according to http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTY0NTc http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTY0NTc No risks for an LTS release I guess.
- newman314 13y ago
  Bummer. On the flip side, maintaining a franken kernel for multiple years isn't fun either so one would think this be a pro in favor of 3.14. Oh well, at least OpenSSH 6.6 made it in.
aray 13y ago
LTS releases should probably stick to a kernel that will have long-term stable support. One example is GKH's (Greg Kroah-Hartman's) stability kernels: http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news-media/blogs/browse/2013/08/longterm-kernel-310 http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news-media/blogs/browse/2013/... Understandably launching ubuntu 14.04 with and older kernel is less than ideal, but launching on a kernel that will lose support in 6 months is probably a worse idea.

uulbiy 13y ago

I would assume that 3.12 would be used instead since it's the latest long-term stable release of the kernel.

dvirsky 13y ago
FWIW I'm already using 14.04 beta2, and the kernel there is 3.13.0-20. This means the stable version will be 3.14, doesn't it?
- pantalaimon 13y ago
  Why would you conclude that?
  - dvirsky 13y ago
    I remembered odd versions were unstable, but looking at the kernel info, 3.13 is a stable version. So I'm guessing they'll stick with that.
    - pantalaimon 13y ago
      > I remembered odd versions were unstable this stopped being true very long ago (with the beginning of the 2.6 series)
      - dvirsky 13y ago
        TIL :)
- baldfat 13y ago
  Kernel freeze is April second so this means that they "should" be able to update the kernel to 3.14 but its Ubuntu and you never know.
skion 13y ago
I think that would then be the first time that Ubuntu LTS is piggybacking on an LTS kernel. With 3.12 already 6 months old that seems unlikely to me given Ubuntu's usual attempts to support modern hardware.
zanny 13y ago
If they don't use 3.14 they won't have complete Intel broadwell support. Since those chips will come out and be the primary source of new 14.04 installs, they either need to release a point release with a new kernel around the product launch or get 3.14 in now. Of course they could backport those patches to their kernel.
- brandon 13y ago
  The kernel and X stack get regular backports over the life of the LTS release (since Precise): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
Zigurd 13y ago
I upgraded to the 14.04 LTS beta and uname -r returns 3.13.0-19-lowlatency for me.

Spittie 13y ago

It's possible, as the Kernel Freeze is on April 3rd (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule).

sajithdilshan 13y ago

Ubuntu 14.04 already uses 3.14 kernel in daily images. You can download the .deb from here. http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.14-trusty/ http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.14-trusty/

skion 13y ago

Not according to http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTY0NTc http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTY0NTc No risks for an LTS release I guess.

newman314 13y ago
Bummer. On the flip side, maintaining a franken kernel for multiple years isn't fun either so one would think this be a pro in favor of 3.14. Oh well, at least OpenSSH 6.6 made it in.

aray 13y ago

LTS releases should probably stick to a kernel that will have long-term stable support. One example is GKH's (Greg Kroah-Hartman's) stability kernels: http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news-media/blogs/browse/2013/08/longterm-kernel-310 http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news-media/blogs/browse/2013/... Understandably launching ubuntu 14.04 with and older kernel is less than ideal, but launching on a kernel that will lose support in 6 months is probably a worse idea.