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Disclaimer: This is a downmod posting. Please obey current Political Correctness Dictatorship, and down-vote, thanks! Simply a side note: We all have written

by polos 17y ago

Disclaimer: This is a downmod posting. Please obey current Political Correctness Dictatorship, and down-vote, thanks! Simply a side note: We all have written our gender not only in our body, but even in our (invisible) souls. Now, to all of you thinking that one is able to actually change ones gender: no, sorry, that's not possible. Your soul will remain the same, and anybody really knowing you, will not note any difference...

jacquesm 17y ago
Wow. So, you would judge for others how they are allowed to feel and you claim to know them better than they can know themselves and all that without even a look at the individual you are addressing ? I don't think that has anything to do with being politically correct or not, simply with live and let live. I'm not very current on 'invisible souls', but even those are private property last I checked and the only person who knows them close enough to make the call happens to be the one to express themselves. To say that you have knowledge that overrules a persons feelings about themselves is a little far reaching. If somebody would come along and told you how you can or can not feel about yourself and how someone else would be able to perceive something about you that you yourself would disagree with in such a fundamental way (it is your identity we are talking about here) how would that feel ?
callahad 17y ago
I think you're confusing sex and gender. Sex is biological, and you could reasonably claim that it is written in our bodies, as well as our souls, if you see a connection between the two. Gender, however, is psychological -- it's how you perceive yourself in relation to societal norms. And it can be fluid, like any other psychological process. Consider someone that told you they were "feeling mad." You can not reasonably refute that statement, as it's purely a statement of internal state and perception. Gender is the same way.
- araneae 17y ago
  And "psychological" refers to events that occur in your brain, which, if I remember from biology, is a biological organ. There is at least some, if not a majority of biological cause(as opposed to environmental) behind why some people who are one sex identify with another.
MaysonL 17y ago
I agree, but the thing is: some people's soul gender is different from their born body gender.
mahmud 17y ago
You have no idea. I know anecdote != data, but I have seen an obscure one-woman theater show done by an Australian actor; the theme of the show was "gender" and how little of it has anything to do with your physiology. She comes to stage in drag dressed as a man, but no facial hair; a weird, over aggressive super-macho man. Throughout the performance, she removes one clothing item at a time, and by the time she has stripped there was just a naked, aggressive douche-bag staring back at me. It was one of the profoundest acts of human performance I have ever seen. She is a very attractive women outside character; in-character, it was just another dude at the gym, I now remember that I don't even recall looking at her genitals, I wasn't looking for clues or confirmation, just annoyed there is a naked guy on front of my girlfriend.
WinterAyars 17y ago
What if my soul was androgynous from the start, and it's my body/"gender" that i'm bringing into line with my soul rather than the other way around? I mean, that's the other option, isn't it?

by polos 17y ago

jacquesm 17y ago

Wow. So, you would judge for others how they are allowed to feel and you claim to know them better than they can know themselves and all that without even a look at the individual you are addressing ? I don't think that has anything to do with being politically correct or not, simply with live and let live. I'm not very current on 'invisible souls', but even those are private property last I checked and the only person who knows them close enough to make the call happens to be the one to express themselves. To say that you have knowledge that overrules a persons feelings about themselves is a little far reaching. If somebody would come along and told you how you can or can not feel about yourself and how someone else would be able to perceive something about you that you yourself would disagree with in such a fundamental way (it is your identity we are talking about here) how would that feel ?

callahad 17y ago

I think you're confusing sex and gender. Sex is biological, and you could reasonably claim that it is written in our bodies, as well as our souls, if you see a connection between the two. Gender, however, is psychological -- it's how you perceive yourself in relation to societal norms. And it can be fluid, like any other psychological process. Consider someone that told you they were "feeling mad." You can not reasonably refute that statement, as it's purely a statement of internal state and perception. Gender is the same way.

araneae 17y ago
And "psychological" refers to events that occur in your brain, which, if I remember from biology, is a biological organ. There is at least some, if not a majority of biological cause(as opposed to environmental) behind why some people who are one sex identify with another.

MaysonL 17y ago

I agree, but the thing is: some people's soul gender is different from their born body gender.

mahmud 17y ago

You have no idea. I know anecdote != data, but I have seen an obscure one-woman theater show done by an Australian actor; the theme of the show was "gender" and how little of it has anything to do with your physiology. She comes to stage in drag dressed as a man, but no facial hair; a weird, over aggressive super-macho man. Throughout the performance, she removes one clothing item at a time, and by the time she has stripped there was just a naked, aggressive douche-bag staring back at me. It was one of the profoundest acts of human performance I have ever seen. She is a very attractive women outside character; in-character, it was just another dude at the gym, I now remember that I don't even recall looking at her genitals, I wasn't looking for clues or confirmation, just annoyed there is a naked guy on front of my girlfriend.

WinterAyars 17y ago

What if my soul was androgynous from the start, and it's my body/"gender" that i'm bringing into line with my soul rather than the other way around? I mean, that's the other option, isn't it?