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Why is that? Sometimes the only reasonable and legitimate response to certain ideas and claims is to dismiss them. It's much the same for negativity. Sometimes

by Pacabel 13y ago

Why is that? Sometimes the only reasonable and legitimate response to certain ideas and claims is to dismiss them. It's much the same for negativity. Sometimes a negative response is the best one. Highly sanitized, politically correct, feel-good discussion is pretty much pointless to engage in. The best value and insight often comes from asking the hard questions and pointing out flaws that are painful to acknowledge. It might not feel pleasant all of the time, and it might not make people happy, but engaging in discussion in a way that some people may consider "negative" or "dismissive" often gets the best results for everyone involved.

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waterlesscloud 13y ago
We have more choices than just "dismissive/negative" and "highly-sanitized/feel-good", though. For example- "This is broken as it exists, for reasons A-E. However, if you did things X-Z, it would work much better and be much more interesting." Sure, that takes more time. But honestly, if your main priority with your post is that you can write it quickly, you're probably not making a meaningful post anyway. I wonder if an "are you sure" type button could help improve posts. Maybe it could say "Does this contribute to the conversation?", just to remind people what the point of posting really is.
- rainedin 13y ago
  There's some software called CoFind: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S108480450090105X http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1084804500... Which was a bookmarking tool, that enabled you to create your own scoring system with multiple facets. Like the Slashdot: Insightful, Funny... You can't have too many of these as it can get unweildy (probably why Facebook settled for the Thumbs up), but it could help. Especially for a community that sees the outcome value and are prepared to learn and contribute towards community moderation. Up and down votes are so ambiguous that I'd almost suggest they are practically pointless. The 'Mee too' and 'I don't agree' votes really need to be filtered out into something else. Perhaps into a 'Consensus' facet. Add to the mix 'Topicness' : 'On topic', 'Off topic'; 'Niceness': 'Pleasant', 'Rude' etc. Word cap each comment too, so they remain to the point. Essays can be linked to.

by Pacabel 13y ago

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waterlesscloud 13y ago

We have more choices than just "dismissive/negative" and "highly-sanitized/feel-good", though. For example- "This is broken as it exists, for reasons A-E. However, if you did things X-Z, it would work much better and be much more interesting." Sure, that takes more time. But honestly, if your main priority with your post is that you can write it quickly, you're probably not making a meaningful post anyway. I wonder if an "are you sure" type button could help improve posts. Maybe it could say "Does this contribute to the conversation?", just to remind people what the point of posting really is.

rainedin 13y ago
There's some software called CoFind: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S108480450090105X http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1084804500... Which was a bookmarking tool, that enabled you to create your own scoring system with multiple facets. Like the Slashdot: Insightful, Funny... You can't have too many of these as it can get unweildy (probably why Facebook settled for the Thumbs up), but it could help. Especially for a community that sees the outcome value and are prepared to learn and contribute towards community moderation. Up and down votes are so ambiguous that I'd almost suggest they are practically pointless. The 'Mee too' and 'I don't agree' votes really need to be filtered out into something else. Perhaps into a 'Consensus' facet. Add to the mix 'Topicness' : 'On topic', 'Off topic'; 'Niceness': 'Pleasant', 'Rude' etc. Word cap each comment too, so they remain to the point. Essays can be linked to.