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Mozilla situation worsens as three board members call it quits

13 points by sgustard 13y ago

codesuela 13y ago
I think its great to see that the people that work at Mozilla feel strongly about ethics and what they consider to be right and are passionate about their product.
- wcummings 13y ago
  The response from Mozillans (?) does make me feel better about the whole situation
crassus 13y ago
Mencius Moldbug traces back the lineage modern progressivism to the Puritans, and you can still see the effects of this lineage in its illiberal totalitarian righteousness[1]. They were briefly the supporters of liberal principles like free speech and open debate when the movement was young and had no power. Like all movements which have grown to power, it now seeks to drive all dissent into the shadows by making dissenters bear a heavy price, a scarlet letter, if you will. [1] http://foseti.wordpress.com/2014/01/06/review-of-unqualified-reservations-part-1/ http://foseti.wordpress.com/2014/01/06/review-of-unqualified...
- cgaudreau 13y ago
  I wouldn't call using the power of free speech to oppose the hateful views of a CEO to be totalitarian righteousness. Would you feel invigorated to work for a CEO who supports slavery?
xarball 13y ago
I hope this develops sanely. There has been a lot of emphasis on the conflict over the personal beliefs of the CEO, but I think this article was correct to point out that some of the resignations were over desire to appoint a more product-specific CEO. What's weird about this is that as an individual he's still entitled to his own personal beliefs. If this person can still function and keep his own bias out of matters (and expresses a willingness to do this!) -- then there's no reason to put too fine a point on it. This might be akin to holding different religious beliefs - and while that idea can be scary when you think X may think Y for ulterior motives A, B, and C; the day to day expectation is that their role is limited to being reasonable and calculated when challenged or asked to justify their actions.
cgaudreau 13y ago
This particular website appears to have buckled under the traffic. In the mean time, here's a mostly equivalent article: http://venturebeat.com/2014/03/28/mozillas-bad-week-employees-call-for-ceo-eich-to-step-down-3-board-members-leave/ http://venturebeat.com/2014/03/28/mozillas-bad-week-employee...

13 points by sgustard 13y ago

I think its great to see that the people that work at Mozilla feel strongly about ethics and what they consider to be right and are passionate about their product.

wcummings 13y ago
The response from Mozillans (?) does make me feel better about the whole situation

crassus 13y ago

Mencius Moldbug traces back the lineage modern progressivism to the Puritans, and you can still see the effects of this lineage in its illiberal totalitarian righteousness[1]. They were briefly the supporters of liberal principles like free speech and open debate when the movement was young and had no power. Like all movements which have grown to power, it now seeks to drive all dissent into the shadows by making dissenters bear a heavy price, a scarlet letter, if you will. [1] http://foseti.wordpress.com/2014/01/06/review-of-unqualified-reservations-part-1/ http://foseti.wordpress.com/2014/01/06/review-of-unqualified...

cgaudreau 13y ago
I wouldn't call using the power of free speech to oppose the hateful views of a CEO to be totalitarian righteousness. Would you feel invigorated to work for a CEO who supports slavery?

xarball 13y ago

I hope this develops sanely. There has been a lot of emphasis on the conflict over the personal beliefs of the CEO, but I think this article was correct to point out that some of the resignations were over desire to appoint a more product-specific CEO. What's weird about this is that as an individual he's still entitled to his own personal beliefs. If this person can still function and keep his own bias out of matters (and expresses a willingness to do this!) -- then there's no reason to put too fine a point on it. This might be akin to holding different religious beliefs - and while that idea can be scary when you think X may think Y for ulterior motives A, B, and C; the day to day expectation is that their role is limited to being reasonable and calculated when challenged or asked to justify their actions.

cgaudreau 13y ago

This particular website appears to have buckled under the traffic. In the mean time, here's a mostly equivalent article: http://venturebeat.com/2014/03/28/mozillas-bad-week-employees-call-for-ceo-eich-to-step-down-3-board-members-leave/ http://venturebeat.com/2014/03/28/mozillas-bad-week-employee...