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Fortunately I don't see a problem with spying on foreign companies or countries. Also you shouldn't downvote a perfectly valid comment. Thanks.

smokeyj 13y ago
The depth of your moral compass is "But other people are doing it". I don't see how your comment adds value.
rakoo 13y ago
Because borders are a perfectly valid and relevant criteria over which you can tell who is potentially dangerous. Because we are all humans but we are not all the same, even though we all want to live in a democracy and want to accept everyone. Right ?
- res0nat0r 13y ago
  > Because borders are a perfectly valid and relevant criteria over which you can tell who is potentially dangerous. Sure.
Sae5waip 13y ago
Unfortunately, I have a huge problem with a foreign country - the USA - spying on my country and me.
- ianhawes 13y ago
  Do you support your country conducting their own foreign intelligence?
  - codesuela 13y ago
    Being German I'd argue that a problem is that Germany relies on the US to conduct intelligence for them and hence ignores the fact that the NSA is violating the rights of it's citizens on a massive scale.
    - mpyne 13y ago
      No, BND does a lot of intelligence work as well... weren't you paying attention to the Snowden leaks?
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  - coldtea 13y ago
    No, I don't. I could understand it for a country doing it for it's direct adversaries (e.g India and Pakistan and vice versa). That's what it was historically been connected to in any case. I especially don't want a 10000-pound gorilla country with a constant history of war, imperialism and a racist feeling of "we are the chose country of God and a great experiment" doing it globally and using it for economic and military control. So, no, I don't like Germany doing it. Or France. Or UK. Or China. Or Japan. And especially I don't like the big kahuna doing it.
  - Sae5waip 13y ago
    No, I don't. a) We (my country and the US) are allies. b) I may be less not ok with spying on high-ranking politicians. But any spying on companies and normal citizens is right out.

smokeyj 13y ago

The depth of your moral compass is "But other people are doing it". I don't see how your comment adds value.

rakoo 13y ago

Because borders are a perfectly valid and relevant criteria over which you can tell who is potentially dangerous. Because we are all humans but we are not all the same, even though we all want to live in a democracy and want to accept everyone. Right ?

res0nat0r 13y ago
> Because borders are a perfectly valid and relevant criteria over which you can tell who is potentially dangerous. Sure.

Sae5waip 13y ago

Unfortunately, I have a huge problem with a foreign country - the USA - spying on my country and me.

ianhawes 13y ago
Do you support your country conducting their own foreign intelligence?
- codesuela 13y ago
  Being German I'd argue that a problem is that Germany relies on the US to conduct intelligence for them and hence ignores the fact that the NSA is violating the rights of it's citizens on a massive scale.
  - mpyne 13y ago
    No, BND does a lot of intelligence work as well... weren't you paying attention to the Snowden leaks?
- deleted 13y ago
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- coldtea 13y ago
  No, I don't. I could understand it for a country doing it for it's direct adversaries (e.g India and Pakistan and vice versa). That's what it was historically been connected to in any case. I especially don't want a 10000-pound gorilla country with a constant history of war, imperialism and a racist feeling of "we are the chose country of God and a great experiment" doing it globally and using it for economic and military control. So, no, I don't like Germany doing it. Or France. Or UK. Or China. Or Japan. And especially I don't like the big kahuna doing it.
- Sae5waip 13y ago
  No, I don't. a) We (my country and the US) are allies. b) I may be less not ok with spying on high-ranking politicians. But any spying on companies and normal citizens is right out.