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Facebook started to throttle response just over a year ago, well after most people already had all of their friends in their feed, and well after most people ha

Facebook started to throttle response just over a year ago, well after most people already had all of their friends in their feed, and well after most people had joined most of the pages they like. It's no coincidence that Facebook told me I could get more views by spending money to reach the same people I had been reaching organically just a few weeks before. The solution is to stop trying to extort money from the businesses that helped them build their business and let the users decide what they want to see.

morgante 13y ago
You're acting as though Facebook has somehow blocked fans from visiting your page. They're of course free to do so. Given that you accept it's a statistical impossibility for all content I'm subscribed to to reach my feed, what we're debating is priorities. Before this algorithm change, I fully believe it was tilted too far in terms of brands—I received way too many updates from brands and few from my friends. What you call extortion is what every sane person in the world calls advertising. If a magazine writes a story about my business (free advertising), that obviously doesn't entitle me to free advertising in all future issues. Neither does Facebook once giving you free reach.
- sparkzilla 13y ago
  If your feed before was "tilted too fat in terms of brands" then you could easily have hidden them from the feed or unsubscribed. Your analogy is wrong. Facebook did not write a free story about my business. I paid them to help me gather a group of people who were interested in my business. They never at any point said that I would have to pay to access those users. Then, after I spent a lot of money, time and effort maintaining that group, they told me that I couldn't access them without paying them again and again. That's extortion, not advertising. As someone who has ran a business that has sold many millions of dollars of advertising you don't screw over your readers and advertisers to make an extra buck. It might work in the short term, but it's a failing business strategy.
  - waterlesscloud 13y ago
    The users are hiding you by their inaction on your posts. If you "like" more posts from a page, you'll see more of their content. If you don't like their posts, you'll see less of it.
prostoalex 13y ago
> Facebook started to throttle response just over a year ago, well after most people already had all of their friends in their feed, and well after most people had joined most of the pages they like. That's a naive explanation. Is there a day when everybody is supposed to be done with liking pages and vow never to like a page again? Was there a worldwide memo on this? New quality pages appear all the time - IOC is creating a brand new page for each Olympics, large fashion brands create pages for distinct lines they launch, media promote their journalists' and topic pages in addition to main media pages.

morgante 13y ago

You're acting as though Facebook has somehow blocked fans from visiting your page. They're of course free to do so. Given that you accept it's a statistical impossibility for all content I'm subscribed to to reach my feed, what we're debating is priorities. Before this algorithm change, I fully believe it was tilted too far in terms of brands—I received way too many updates from brands and few from my friends. What you call extortion is what every sane person in the world calls advertising. If a magazine writes a story about my business (free advertising), that obviously doesn't entitle me to free advertising in all future issues. Neither does Facebook once giving you free reach.

sparkzilla 13y ago
If your feed before was "tilted too fat in terms of brands" then you could easily have hidden them from the feed or unsubscribed. Your analogy is wrong. Facebook did not write a free story about my business. I paid them to help me gather a group of people who were interested in my business. They never at any point said that I would have to pay to access those users. Then, after I spent a lot of money, time and effort maintaining that group, they told me that I couldn't access them without paying them again and again. That's extortion, not advertising. As someone who has ran a business that has sold many millions of dollars of advertising you don't screw over your readers and advertisers to make an extra buck. It might work in the short term, but it's a failing business strategy.
- waterlesscloud 13y ago
  The users are hiding you by their inaction on your posts. If you "like" more posts from a page, you'll see more of their content. If you don't like their posts, you'll see less of it.

prostoalex 13y ago

> Facebook started to throttle response just over a year ago, well after most people already had all of their friends in their feed, and well after most people had joined most of the pages they like. That's a naive explanation. Is there a day when everybody is supposed to be done with liking pages and vow never to like a page again? Was there a worldwide memo on this? New quality pages appear all the time - IOC is creating a brand new page for each Olympics, large fashion brands create pages for distinct lines they launch, media promote their journalists' and topic pages in addition to main media pages.