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Do you seriously believe this? Then there will be competitors without ads.

Geee 13y ago
You can't compete with 'without ads' business model. Look around: Google search, Youtube, Facebook etc. They all had first mover advantage and there's no way someone can compete with these. These services (and companies) operate around the idea of giving away free candy and locking everyone in with network effects. This is what will happen to VR as well under Facebook's control.
- evan_ 13y ago
  Maybe it's harder to be #1 without being free but there are many video sites competing with YouTube that do pretty well. Vimeo, Netflix, Amazon Instant Video, etc- they're not FREE but they're still very popular. There's no reason to believe that Facebook's VR network will be the only one. Also, none of the products you listed had first mover advantage. They're all excellent examples of things that upset a formerly dominant major player.
  - rayiner 13y ago
    For movie distribution, network lock in doesn't matter so much. But for video sharing they do, and for VR they really will. Competing with Netflix is a lot easier than competing with Facebook or YouTube for that reason.
- bane 13y ago
  > You can't compete with 'without ads' business model. Look around: Google search, Youtube, Facebook etc. They all had first mover advantage and there's no way someone can compete with these. Nonsense, there are dozens of very expensive data providers and search companies out there who do very well for themselves thank you very much.
  - loup-vaillant 13y ago
    Could you name three? (I fully expect that you can, but it'll make your argument that much more convincing). Of the top of my head, I think of DuckDuckGo, which does not spy, but it still have ads.
    - bane 13y ago
      LexisNexis VersusLaw various legal, bio, tech, IP, etc. sites.
      - bane 13y ago
        doesn't let me edit, but Merck also has an entire slew of searchable information as does places like Bloomberg or other financial data companies.
- Turing_Machine 13y ago
  "Look around: Google search, Youtube, Facebook etc. They all had first mover advantage and there's no way someone can compete with these." They did? What about Yahoo, Alta Vista, WebCrawler, MySpace, Friendster...?
randunel 13y ago
There are ad-less video sharing websites, yet youtube is #1. Same will happen with Oculus, targeted ads in vr.
dragontamer 13y ago
And therefore, Oculus Rift has "sold out". We are now looking for more legitimate competitors, and are pissed off at the Oculus.

Geee 13y ago

You can't compete with 'without ads' business model. Look around: Google search, Youtube, Facebook etc. They all had first mover advantage and there's no way someone can compete with these. These services (and companies) operate around the idea of giving away free candy and locking everyone in with network effects. This is what will happen to VR as well under Facebook's control.

evan_ 13y ago
Maybe it's harder to be #1 without being free but there are many video sites competing with YouTube that do pretty well. Vimeo, Netflix, Amazon Instant Video, etc- they're not FREE but they're still very popular. There's no reason to believe that Facebook's VR network will be the only one. Also, none of the products you listed had first mover advantage. They're all excellent examples of things that upset a formerly dominant major player.
- rayiner 13y ago
  For movie distribution, network lock in doesn't matter so much. But for video sharing they do, and for VR they really will. Competing with Netflix is a lot easier than competing with Facebook or YouTube for that reason.
bane 13y ago
> You can't compete with 'without ads' business model. Look around: Google search, Youtube, Facebook etc. They all had first mover advantage and there's no way someone can compete with these. Nonsense, there are dozens of very expensive data providers and search companies out there who do very well for themselves thank you very much.
- loup-vaillant 13y ago
  Could you name three? (I fully expect that you can, but it'll make your argument that much more convincing). Of the top of my head, I think of DuckDuckGo, which does not spy, but it still have ads.
  - bane 13y ago
    LexisNexis VersusLaw various legal, bio, tech, IP, etc. sites.
    - bane 13y ago
      doesn't let me edit, but Merck also has an entire slew of searchable information as does places like Bloomberg or other financial data companies.
Turing_Machine 13y ago
"Look around: Google search, Youtube, Facebook etc. They all had first mover advantage and there's no way someone can compete with these." They did? What about Yahoo, Alta Vista, WebCrawler, MySpace, Friendster...?

randunel 13y ago

There are ad-less video sharing websites, yet youtube is #1. Same will happen with Oculus, targeted ads in vr.

dragontamer 13y ago

And therefore, Oculus Rift has "sold out". We are now looking for more legitimate competitors, and are pissed off at the Oculus.