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The new TLDs are here, do you really need Yourname.BLARGH?

34 points by StuntPope 13y ago

dewey 13y ago
"which by the way, you can already do here in Toronto with .TO)" [0] What's up with that? Is there something I'm missing or are they just selling tonga [1] domains under the toronto label now? [0] http://web.to/ http://web.to/ [1] http://www.tonic.to/ http://www.tonic.to/
- StuntPope 13y ago
  You're right it's just a re-purposed .TO domain, but at the time we met with the Tonic guys and came up with the idea the new TLDs hadn't happened yet. AND we figured it was going to be better than something like .TORONTO (All these new TLDs have suffixes longer than the actual domain names...)
- JamilD 13y ago
  It's not unique to Toronto; Los Angeles is encouraging local businesses to use Laos' TLD (c.f. http://www.la http://www.la)
computer 13y ago
With uncommon domain extensions I always fear that they might jack up the rates at some point in the future, going from $20/year to $250/year or even more. Still, my personal site and email is on a fairly obscure country TLD, and I hope they will never do something like that, being a country and all. With these new TLDs for which companies paid large amounts of money, who knows what might happen? Does anyone know if such a bait and switch has ever happened in domain-land?
- StuntPope 13y ago
  .TV was close, they launched and segregated a bunch of domains off as "premium" and charged inflated prices. Then there was (IIRC) an episode where they wanted to renew a bunch of landrush domains at "premium" prices. They also don't allow "premium" domains to switch registrars. The new .WED rules are crazy. Year 3 renewal is $25,000. They think the next "Brad and Janet" want to be able to use BradAndJanet.WED for their wedding.
  - johnchristopher 13y ago
    That might work out for bradandangelina though :]
- deleted 13y ago
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- thaumaturgy 13y ago
  > With uncommon domain extensions I always fear that they might jack up the rates at some point in the future, going from $20/year to $250/year or even more. I sincerely wish that this would happen with all domain registrations. Maybe not $250/yr, but $100/yr would be OK. It wouldn't bother anybody that owns a few domains for business or even personal use. It would slow down spamming techniques that rely on registering lots of different domains. It would almost entirely halt domain squatting.
  - mden 13y ago
    But then a lot of people wouldn't be able to afford owning a domain, which to me seems more evil than domain squatting. Artificially raising the prices hardly seems like a fair solution.
    - thaumasiotes 13y ago
      I'm not advocating this, but you could always have cheap registration for a .poverty domain, or some such.
      - eropple 13y ago
        I'll bet you just don't understand why the tech crowd is becoming vilified in San Francisco, too.
        jamesbritt 13y ago
        I'd really like to think it was a clever, self-aware, parody comment. (The "I'm not advocating this" part seems to weaken this, though. )
        thaumasiotes 13y ago
        Well, I tend to agree with you that this a political impossibility. But I think it's worth thinking a bit about why you find it so outrageous. If the problem is "domain name registration might be unaffordable for the impoverished", what's the negative side to letting anyone at all have extremely cheap registration just by claiming to be poor? It's hassle-free price discrimination. Is it morally offensive to you when e.g. a company lets you use their software with prominent branding attached for cheap, or the same software, whitelabeled, for dear? If the problem isn't "domain name registration might be unaffordable for the impoverished"... maybe it's worth thinking about what the problem is?
TazeTSchnitzel 13y ago
The number of new TLDs is rather ridiculous. That said, I can't say I mind all of them. Scotland and Scottish culture will finally get their own domain - .scot - which will be great.
- technifreak 13y ago
  great.scot is already taken.
  - TazeTSchnitzel 13y ago
    Is it? I didn't know they were taking registrations yet. I'm determined to get great.scot myself.
kyyd 13y ago
I welcome the new domains, how else would my bike get the web page it deserves? http://kyle.bike/ http://kyle.bike/
- Ellipsis753 13y ago
  That's cool. Is it live?
  - codecondo 13y ago
    You'll have to wait and see.
  - 9ac345a5509a 13y ago
    It's a looped gif: http://kyle.bike/bike.gif http://kyle.bike/bike.gif
    - Ellipsis753 13y ago
      Thank you. :)
wikiburner 13y ago
Does anyone know of listings or a resource guide for when each TLD is going live and the registrars that are selling them? I have a couple of domain hacks that I've been interested in that I want to use for a project.
- garrettgrimsley 13y ago
  http://blog.europeandomaincentre.com/infographics-launch-dates-for-the-617-new-gtlds/ http://blog.europeandomaincentre.com/infographics-launch-dat... Does not work well on mobile.
wesleyac 13y ago
Whenever people talk about new tlds, I always think mostly about names like google.con or googl.ecom. Yeah, yeah, it's cool that you can get some awesome tld, but I don't see the point. What's wrong with .com/org/net?
- MarkTee 13y ago
  Greater availability, for one.
- glenstein 13y ago
  I would invert the question. What's wrong with more options? The thing that really strikes me every time the new TLD subject comes up, is that there's always a percentage of people who want to forbid creation of certain TLDs for unpredictable, idiosyncratic reasons.
  - Retric 13y ago
    Automatic spam filters and search engines are going to down rank them heavily. It's hard to automatically evaluate domain names such as xkcd but anything under .ecom is probably trash.
    - glenstein 13y ago
      That's supposed to be a reason for forbidding it? Anybody could have any number of reasons for wanting a particular domain. Maybe someone will make the next del.icio.us? Maybe a TLD you don't like completes a word or phrase that makes a good brand, or is part of the next big viral trend that goes on to shape our culture in ways we wouldn't have anticipated. Maybe people are just okay with being penalized by search engines because that's counterbalanced by other objectives. etc.
      - Retric 13y ago
        I was not suggesting that we should ban those domain names. However, using one is probably a bad idea, which makes adding them a waste of time. In the end there being added because companies know they can sell those domain names not because there useful. A more useful option IMO is to have things default to .com if someone does not enter a domain name like how you can avoid country codes or area codes when dialing long distance. However, by adding a huge list of TLD's your removing that option. Even worse while .edu means something WTF does .cow or .zzl mean? At best there is simply going to be another .com land grab except now seeing yourbank.bank or yourbank.bnk does not mean it's actually yourbank. So yea, I do think it's a bad idea.
ThePhysicist 13y ago
One TLD that stands out from the rest is .HIV: -It's the first TLD ever bought by a non-profit initiative: http://www.dothiv.org http://www.dothiv.org (based in Berlin, Germany) -Their goal is to create the "red ribbon" of the digital age -Revenues generated through the sale of these domains will be used to raise funds in support of projects that fight HIV -Companies that buy .hiv addresses can pledge to donate a given amount of money to the initiative each time somebody visits their site, thus creating a clever system of micro-donations. In my opinion this is an ingenious idea and one of the most creative uses of domain names I've seen so far.
- thaumasiotes 13y ago
  Does this mean DDoSing a .hiv address will send a ton of cash to dothiv.org?
  - computer 13y ago
    It's a pledge, so likely voluntary, not automatic.
- TazeTSchnitzel 13y ago
  >It's the first TLD ever bought by a non-profit initiative Really? I can think of at least one other, .scot, and there are surely plenty more.
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karangoeluw 13y ago
I have http://have.tips/ http://have.tips/ and I have no idea what to do with it. Any tips? (see what I did there?)
mhurron 13y ago
.blargh sounds like a great TLD for a blog.
- TazeTSchnitzel 13y ago
  Myself, I'm hoping for .blag
wudf 13y ago
is there a .js? if not we should probably build an ad-hoc framework to support it
- sbegaudeau 13y ago
  TLDs with two letters are only for countries: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Country_code_top-level_domain http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Country_code_top-level_domain

34 points by StuntPope 13y ago

dewey 13y ago

"which by the way, you can already do here in Toronto with .TO)" [0] What's up with that? Is there something I'm missing or are they just selling tonga [1] domains under the toronto label now? [0] http://web.to/ http://web.to/ [1] http://www.tonic.to/ http://www.tonic.to/

StuntPope 13y ago
You're right it's just a re-purposed .TO domain, but at the time we met with the Tonic guys and came up with the idea the new TLDs hadn't happened yet. AND we figured it was going to be better than something like .TORONTO (All these new TLDs have suffixes longer than the actual domain names...)
JamilD 13y ago
It's not unique to Toronto; Los Angeles is encouraging local businesses to use Laos' TLD (c.f. http://www.la http://www.la)

computer 13y ago

With uncommon domain extensions I always fear that they might jack up the rates at some point in the future, going from $20/year to $250/year or even more. Still, my personal site and email is on a fairly obscure country TLD, and I hope they will never do something like that, being a country and all. With these new TLDs for which companies paid large amounts of money, who knows what might happen? Does anyone know if such a bait and switch has ever happened in domain-land?

StuntPope 13y ago
.TV was close, they launched and segregated a bunch of domains off as "premium" and charged inflated prices. Then there was (IIRC) an episode where they wanted to renew a bunch of landrush domains at "premium" prices. They also don't allow "premium" domains to switch registrars. The new .WED rules are crazy. Year 3 renewal is $25,000. They think the next "Brad and Janet" want to be able to use BradAndJanet.WED for their wedding.
- johnchristopher 13y ago
  That might work out for bradandangelina though :]
deleted 13y ago
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thaumaturgy 13y ago
> With uncommon domain extensions I always fear that they might jack up the rates at some point in the future, going from $20/year to $250/year or even more. I sincerely wish that this would happen with all domain registrations. Maybe not $250/yr, but $100/yr would be OK. It wouldn't bother anybody that owns a few domains for business or even personal use. It would slow down spamming techniques that rely on registering lots of different domains. It would almost entirely halt domain squatting.
- mden 13y ago
  But then a lot of people wouldn't be able to afford owning a domain, which to me seems more evil than domain squatting. Artificially raising the prices hardly seems like a fair solution.
  - thaumasiotes 13y ago
    I'm not advocating this, but you could always have cheap registration for a .poverty domain, or some such.
    - eropple 13y ago
      I'll bet you just don't understand why the tech crowd is becoming vilified in San Francisco, too.
      - jamesbritt 13y ago
        I'd really like to think it was a clever, self-aware, parody comment. (The "I'm not advocating this" part seems to weaken this, though. )
        thaumasiotes 13y ago
        Well, I tend to agree with you that this a political impossibility. But I think it's worth thinking a bit about why you find it so outrageous. If the problem is "domain name registration might be unaffordable for the impoverished", what's the negative side to letting anyone at all have extremely cheap registration just by claiming to be poor? It's hassle-free price discrimination. Is it morally offensive to you when e.g. a company lets you use their software with prominent branding attached for cheap, or the same software, whitelabeled, for dear? If the problem isn't "domain name registration might be unaffordable for the impoverished"... maybe it's worth thinking about what the problem is?

TazeTSchnitzel 13y ago

The number of new TLDs is rather ridiculous. That said, I can't say I mind all of them. Scotland and Scottish culture will finally get their own domain - .scot - which will be great.

technifreak 13y ago
great.scot is already taken.
- TazeTSchnitzel 13y ago
  Is it? I didn't know they were taking registrations yet. I'm determined to get great.scot myself.

kyyd 13y ago

I welcome the new domains, how else would my bike get the web page it deserves? http://kyle.bike/ http://kyle.bike/

Ellipsis753 13y ago
That's cool. Is it live?
- codecondo 13y ago
  You'll have to wait and see.
- 9ac345a5509a 13y ago
  It's a looped gif: http://kyle.bike/bike.gif http://kyle.bike/bike.gif
  - Ellipsis753 13y ago
    Thank you. :)

wikiburner 13y ago

Does anyone know of listings or a resource guide for when each TLD is going live and the registrars that are selling them? I have a couple of domain hacks that I've been interested in that I want to use for a project.

garrettgrimsley 13y ago
http://blog.europeandomaincentre.com/infographics-launch-dates-for-the-617-new-gtlds/ http://blog.europeandomaincentre.com/infographics-launch-dat... Does not work well on mobile.

wesleyac 13y ago

Whenever people talk about new tlds, I always think mostly about names like google.con or googl.ecom. Yeah, yeah, it's cool that you can get some awesome tld, but I don't see the point. What's wrong with .com/org/net?

MarkTee 13y ago
Greater availability, for one.
glenstein 13y ago
I would invert the question. What's wrong with more options? The thing that really strikes me every time the new TLD subject comes up, is that there's always a percentage of people who want to forbid creation of certain TLDs for unpredictable, idiosyncratic reasons.
- Retric 13y ago
  Automatic spam filters and search engines are going to down rank them heavily. It's hard to automatically evaluate domain names such as xkcd but anything under .ecom is probably trash.
  - glenstein 13y ago
    That's supposed to be a reason for forbidding it? Anybody could have any number of reasons for wanting a particular domain. Maybe someone will make the next del.icio.us? Maybe a TLD you don't like completes a word or phrase that makes a good brand, or is part of the next big viral trend that goes on to shape our culture in ways we wouldn't have anticipated. Maybe people are just okay with being penalized by search engines because that's counterbalanced by other objectives. etc.
    - Retric 13y ago
      I was not suggesting that we should ban those domain names. However, using one is probably a bad idea, which makes adding them a waste of time. In the end there being added because companies know they can sell those domain names not because there useful. A more useful option IMO is to have things default to .com if someone does not enter a domain name like how you can avoid country codes or area codes when dialing long distance. However, by adding a huge list of TLD's your removing that option. Even worse while .edu means something WTF does .cow or .zzl mean? At best there is simply going to be another .com land grab except now seeing yourbank.bank or yourbank.bnk does not mean it's actually yourbank. So yea, I do think it's a bad idea.

ThePhysicist 13y ago

One TLD that stands out from the rest is .HIV: -It's the first TLD ever bought by a non-profit initiative: http://www.dothiv.org http://www.dothiv.org (based in Berlin, Germany) -Their goal is to create the "red ribbon" of the digital age -Revenues generated through the sale of these domains will be used to raise funds in support of projects that fight HIV -Companies that buy .hiv addresses can pledge to donate a given amount of money to the initiative each time somebody visits their site, thus creating a clever system of micro-donations. In my opinion this is an ingenious idea and one of the most creative uses of domain names I've seen so far.

thaumasiotes 13y ago
Does this mean DDoSing a .hiv address will send a ton of cash to dothiv.org?
- computer 13y ago
  It's a pledge, so likely voluntary, not automatic.
TazeTSchnitzel 13y ago
>It's the first TLD ever bought by a non-profit initiative Really? I can think of at least one other, .scot, and there are surely plenty more.

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karangoeluw 13y ago

I have http://have.tips/ http://have.tips/ and I have no idea what to do with it. Any tips? (see what I did there?)

mhurron 13y ago

.blargh sounds like a great TLD for a blog.

TazeTSchnitzel 13y ago
Myself, I'm hoping for .blag

wudf 13y ago

is there a .js? if not we should probably build an ad-hoc framework to support it

sbegaudeau 13y ago
TLDs with two letters are only for countries: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Country_code_top-level_domain http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Country_code_top-level_domain