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This is excellent news. It's amazing to see the driver situation of Linux progressing so quickly these days.

Pacabel 13y ago
I have to ask, did you even read the first sentence of the email from James Jones of NVIDIA? It says, "This direction seems to conflict with our plans to continue running our DDX driver under XWayland." The rest of the email isn't exactly positive, as well. "Progressing so quickly" just isn't the first thing I think of when hearing about difficulties like those described in that email.
mrweasel 13y ago
It kinda sucks if you want Nvidia, Wayland and *BSD. I really wish Nvidia would stop with the binary drivers. Back when Matrox released their G200 card they used a little known fact in X11 that allowed them to do platform independent drivers. I'm not sure how it worked, but remember downloading the and using the "Linux" driver on OpenBSD to gain stuff like dual-head support. I'm not sure the same would work for hardware accelerated graphics, but it would be nice if Nvidia help getting their hardware supported on whatever platform people choose to use.
- zanny 13y ago
  Gallium is actually designed to be cross platform too. Obviously AMD isn't using that (and they were the major developers of Gallium) but the only part of it that is platform specific is the winsys interface. It does, however, mean you can port the Gallium version of the Intel Driver, or the Nouveau / Radeon free drivers, or the other Gallium drivers like Freedreno to any platform with just that one API switch. I figure it was one of the justifications in funding Gallium from the AMD boardroom perspective - it isn't just a Linux driver, it is a pivot to easily get their driver on any other platform they need it on, whereas Catalyst proves to be very specific, requiring developers on both sides actively maintaining it to have a Linux + Windows version, plus the OSX one they certainly have.
- oofabz 13y ago
  > Wayland and *BSD I believe Mesa does not even support EGL on BSD. Now I know the Nvidia driver doesn't use Mesa, but this indicates how little effort is being put into Wayland on BSD. I can't say I blame them. BSD is primarily used on servers with no GUI, so the BSD community uses their limited resources to support that use case. It's the same reason BSD has poor support for WiFi and suspend/resume. But I don't think we're going to see Wayland on BSD for a very long time.

I have to ask, did you even read the first sentence of the email from James Jones of NVIDIA? It says, "This direction seems to conflict with our plans to continue running our DDX driver under XWayland." The rest of the email isn't exactly positive, as well. "Progressing so quickly" just isn't the first thing I think of when hearing about difficulties like those described in that email.

mrweasel 13y ago

It kinda sucks if you want Nvidia, Wayland and *BSD. I really wish Nvidia would stop with the binary drivers. Back when Matrox released their G200 card they used a little known fact in X11 that allowed them to do platform independent drivers. I'm not sure how it worked, but remember downloading the and using the "Linux" driver on OpenBSD to gain stuff like dual-head support. I'm not sure the same would work for hardware accelerated graphics, but it would be nice if Nvidia help getting their hardware supported on whatever platform people choose to use.

zanny 13y ago
Gallium is actually designed to be cross platform too. Obviously AMD isn't using that (and they were the major developers of Gallium) but the only part of it that is platform specific is the winsys interface. It does, however, mean you can port the Gallium version of the Intel Driver, or the Nouveau / Radeon free drivers, or the other Gallium drivers like Freedreno to any platform with just that one API switch. I figure it was one of the justifications in funding Gallium from the AMD boardroom perspective - it isn't just a Linux driver, it is a pivot to easily get their driver on any other platform they need it on, whereas Catalyst proves to be very specific, requiring developers on both sides actively maintaining it to have a Linux + Windows version, plus the OSX one they certainly have.
oofabz 13y ago
> Wayland and *BSD I believe Mesa does not even support EGL on BSD. Now I know the Nvidia driver doesn't use Mesa, but this indicates how little effort is being put into Wayland on BSD. I can't say I blame them. BSD is primarily used on servers with no GUI, so the BSD community uses their limited resources to support that use case. It's the same reason BSD has poor support for WiFi and suspend/resume. But I don't think we're going to see Wayland on BSD for a very long time.