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Just the state that he doesn't believe in equality is enough for me.

by jbeja 13y ago

grannyg00se 13y ago
The marriage issue is complicated by many factors, one of which is religion. It doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't believe in equality.
- wpietri 13y ago
  If you work to strip civil rights from a group of people, you pretty much have to not believe in their equality in any meaningful sense. Sure, he might "believe in" their equality in the same way that most people "believe in" getting enough niacin. That is: they might state that belief, but they will never act for it and will often act against it. And I'd add that if Eich believes in their equality and now regrets working against it, he could just say so. That he has energetically dodged the issue when it is of obvious concern to the people he can now fire says something on its own.
foolinaround 13y ago
>he doesn't believe in equality what you mean is "he does'nt believe in the definition of equality as you believe it to be". I believe that he should be penalized if he has demonstrated any hatred towards people in the workplace. I believe that a man is free to exercise his right to free speech in his private life, and this is what I deem it to be. There is a reasonable fear that the gay employees may find themselves cornered under his leadership, and this was addressed in his letter and in the steps Mozilla took to assuage those fears. Anything after this is a witch hunt, and folks taking up the pitchforks are the ones who have been affected the most. Its sad, but happens all the time.
- icebraining 13y ago
  Would you really extend this to any opinion one might have? Suppose a large percentage of women in your state thought men were unfit to vote. Supposed they were enough to legally remove men's right to vote. Now suppose a supporter of that position was hired as your boss. Would you really be OK with that? Feel free to picture more repugnant positions. Would you really not draw the line anywhere? If you would, then you're not really any different than people around here, you just disagree where you draw the line. And frankly, I find it very hard to believe that someone wouldn't.

Just the state that he doesn't believe in equality is enough for me.

by jbeja 13y ago

Just the state that he doesn't believe in equality is enough for me.

The marriage issue is complicated by many factors, one of which is religion. It doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't believe in equality.

wpietri 13y ago
If you work to strip civil rights from a group of people, you pretty much have to not believe in their equality in any meaningful sense. Sure, he might "believe in" their equality in the same way that most people "believe in" getting enough niacin. That is: they might state that belief, but they will never act for it and will often act against it. And I'd add that if Eich believes in their equality and now regrets working against it, he could just say so. That he has energetically dodged the issue when it is of obvious concern to the people he can now fire says something on its own.

foolinaround 13y ago

>he doesn't believe in equality what you mean is "he does'nt believe in the definition of equality as you believe it to be". I believe that he should be penalized if he has demonstrated any hatred towards people in the workplace. I believe that a man is free to exercise his right to free speech in his private life, and this is what I deem it to be. There is a reasonable fear that the gay employees may find themselves cornered under his leadership, and this was addressed in his letter and in the steps Mozilla took to assuage those fears. Anything after this is a witch hunt, and folks taking up the pitchforks are the ones who have been affected the most. Its sad, but happens all the time.

icebraining 13y ago
Would you really extend this to any opinion one might have? Suppose a large percentage of women in your state thought men were unfit to vote. Supposed they were enough to legally remove men's right to vote. Now suppose a supporter of that position was hired as your boss. Would you really be OK with that? Feel free to picture more repugnant positions. Would you really not draw the line anywhere? If you would, then you're not really any different than people around here, you just disagree where you draw the line. And frankly, I find it very hard to believe that someone wouldn't.