I haven't seen that, thanks so much for the pointer! > in order to affect the real world, one must go there and roll up one's sleeves This has always been our

I haven't seen that, thanks so much for the pointer! > in order to affect the real world, one must go there and roll up one's sleeves This has always been our strategy :) Whatever we do come up with, it will be entirely shaped by working with real people on coming up with something that actually solves the problem.