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Most of the articles and chatter I can find talks about the changes in 14.04 from a desktop perspective. I only run ubuntu on servers and vms. Does anyone know

by ghotli 13y ago

Most of the articles and chatter I can find talks about the changes in 14.04 from a desktop perspective. I only run ubuntu on servers and vms. Does anyone know where I can find a good changelog as to what's changed between 12.04 LTS server and 14.04 LTS server?

humanrebar 13y ago
http://distrowatch.org/table.php?distribution=ubuntu http://distrowatch.org/table.php?distribution=ubuntu If you scroll down, there are nice tables that describe various upgrades to default and otherwise important packages.
- listic 13y ago
  This is a nice table of most common packages, but does anyone know where I can check the version of any package on a particular version of Ubuntu?
  - teraflop 13y ago
    http://packages.ubuntu.com/ http://packages.ubuntu.com/ You can browse the complete list for every supported release. Or, you can search for a particular package and set the distribution to "any" to see the latest version available in each release.
    - listic 13y ago
      Great, thanks! Do you by chance know where to look up package information for CentOS?
hnriot 13y ago
most of the reasons for running ubuntu are dekstop oriented. Centos is probably a better bet for servers.
- haakon 13y ago
  Ubuntu Server is quite nice, and for someone who uses (K)Ubuntu on the desktop it's nice to have an apt-based system on the server.
- cies 13y ago
  I will not voluntarily use "yum" on a server in a million years. Debian has always been my favorite, and currently we use Ubuntu on servers as the OS-packages-as-shipped are more up-to-date; which turns out to be quite important in web-dev-land. Frankly I dont know what CentOS/Redhat does better then Ubuntu nowadays, apart from selling enterprise stuff like JBoss :)
  - jgillich 13y ago
    What's wrong with yum? I never had any issues with it on Fedora and CentOS and actually prefer it over apt* (mainly due to it's speed).
- baconhigh 13y ago
  What? There is almost no evidence that your comment is in any way true. Ubuntu has great Long Term Support - which is exactly what this is about and the apt package management is far superior to Yum (IMO at least) - Plenty of high profile companies use Ubuntu for servers.
jcastro 13y ago
Hi, thanks for using Ubuntu Server! I don't have time to answer fully so I'm sorry this response is not so detailed, but here's the general updates: - OpenStack Icehouse - the latest version of OpenStack - Ceph .78 - Emperor! - Juju is ready now for production usage, with some goodies here: - New bundles with quickstart, allowing you to deploy entire workloads in one command. So for example you can do `juju quickstart bundle:mongodb/cluster`, toss in your cloud details, and get a 13 node cluster up and running in about 10 minutes. We also have an entire starter Hadoop Cluster and out of the box deployments for Rails and Django (With node.js on the way). - Manual provider for Juju, allowing you to deploy what are usually cloud workloads onto any machine with Ubuntu and ssh ... so ... all those fancy deploy commands can fire off to Digital Ocean, Linode, or whatever you have laying around. - New cloud providers - we now publish regular cloud images in AWS, Azure, HP Cloud, and new this cycle is Joyent. - Newer MAAS (I don't have the changelog handy) - Vagrant images - We now publish regular vagrant boxes as part of our release process. We also have a Vagrant box that includes Juju with an LXC provider so you can run a simulated deployment of your servers on your Mac/Windows machines. - LXC 1.0 for container using folks. - Speaking of containers, a pretty up to date Docker version this is some work that Paul Tagliamonte is doing in Debian and Ubuntu. - nginx in main, thanks to the hard work of Thomas Ward. He's maintaining a pretty useful PPA backporting nginx packages for older releases. - The usual goodies, so version bumps in the kernel, kvm, libvirt, puppet, If I missed an area let me know!

by ghotli 13y ago

humanrebar 13y ago

http://distrowatch.org/table.php?distribution=ubuntu http://distrowatch.org/table.php?distribution=ubuntu If you scroll down, there are nice tables that describe various upgrades to default and otherwise important packages.

listic 13y ago
This is a nice table of most common packages, but does anyone know where I can check the version of any package on a particular version of Ubuntu?
- teraflop 13y ago
  http://packages.ubuntu.com/ http://packages.ubuntu.com/ You can browse the complete list for every supported release. Or, you can search for a particular package and set the distribution to "any" to see the latest version available in each release.
  - listic 13y ago
    Great, thanks! Do you by chance know where to look up package information for CentOS?

hnriot 13y ago

most of the reasons for running ubuntu are dekstop oriented. Centos is probably a better bet for servers.

haakon 13y ago
Ubuntu Server is quite nice, and for someone who uses (K)Ubuntu on the desktop it's nice to have an apt-based system on the server.
cies 13y ago
I will not voluntarily use "yum" on a server in a million years. Debian has always been my favorite, and currently we use Ubuntu on servers as the OS-packages-as-shipped are more up-to-date; which turns out to be quite important in web-dev-land. Frankly I dont know what CentOS/Redhat does better then Ubuntu nowadays, apart from selling enterprise stuff like JBoss :)
- jgillich 13y ago
  What's wrong with yum? I never had any issues with it on Fedora and CentOS and actually prefer it over apt* (mainly due to it's speed).
baconhigh 13y ago
What? There is almost no evidence that your comment is in any way true. Ubuntu has great Long Term Support - which is exactly what this is about and the apt package management is far superior to Yum (IMO at least) - Plenty of high profile companies use Ubuntu for servers.

jcastro 13y ago

Hi, thanks for using Ubuntu Server! I don't have time to answer fully so I'm sorry this response is not so detailed, but here's the general updates: - OpenStack Icehouse - the latest version of OpenStack - Ceph .78 - Emperor! - Juju is ready now for production usage, with some goodies here: - New bundles with quickstart, allowing you to deploy entire workloads in one command. So for example you can do `juju quickstart bundle:mongodb/cluster`, toss in your cloud details, and get a 13 node cluster up and running in about 10 minutes. We also have an entire starter Hadoop Cluster and out of the box deployments for Rails and Django (With node.js on the way). - Manual provider for Juju, allowing you to deploy what are usually cloud workloads onto any machine with Ubuntu and ssh ... so ... all those fancy deploy commands can fire off to Digital Ocean, Linode, or whatever you have laying around. - New cloud providers - we now publish regular cloud images in AWS, Azure, HP Cloud, and new this cycle is Joyent. - Newer MAAS (I don't have the changelog handy) - Vagrant images - We now publish regular vagrant boxes as part of our release process. We also have a Vagrant box that includes Juju with an LXC provider so you can run a simulated deployment of your servers on your Mac/Windows machines. - LXC 1.0 for container using folks. - Speaking of containers, a pretty up to date Docker version this is some work that Paul Tagliamonte is doing in Debian and Ubuntu. - nginx in main, thanks to the hard work of Thomas Ward. He's maintaining a pretty useful PPA backporting nginx packages for older releases. - The usual goodies, so version bumps in the kernel, kvm, libvirt, puppet, If I missed an area let me know!