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Looks like a dream. Here's the product page for DPTS1: http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/cat-digitalpaper/cat-digitalpapersub/product-DPTS1/ http://pro.sony.com/bbsc

Looks like a dream. Here's the product page for DPTS1: http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/cat-digitalpaper/cat-digitalpapersub/product-DPTS1/ http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/cat-digitalpaper/cat-digitalpap... I imagine it's terribly expensive. "Pricing available upon request". EDIT: That's right. $1000. http://www.golem.de/news/dpts1-sonys-digital-paper-kostet-mehr-als-1-000-us-dollar-1403-105441.html http://www.golem.de/news/dpts1-sonys-digital-paper-kostet-me...

fidotron 13y ago
Techcrunch say it will be $1100. The hardware is lustworthy, though the resolution could be higher, it's just a shame there's no SDK. The buttons on the front look very old school Androidish.
- bildung 13y ago
  > The hardware is lustworthy, though the resolution could be higher, it's just a shame there's no SDK. The buttons on the front look very old school Androidish. I have a 10" e-ink device with 1200x825px which is perfectly fine for A4/letter-designed PDFs, so I'd say the resolution should be fine. I also have a 10" notebook, and the readability is considerably worse at about the same resolution, so I guess e-ink resolutions are not really comparable with lcd resolutions (the pixel layout is quite different: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3090/2286311679_f98bdba47f_m.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3090/2286311679_f98bdba47f_m....).
  - j_s 13y ago
    Which device do you have? The Kindle DX is 9.7" Visionect sells developer-friendly (SDK included) 6" and 9.7" devices starting around $500: http://www.visionect.com/ http://www.visionect.com/
    - adiM 13y ago
      Don't know about the GP, but I have an iRex DR1000 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Reader_1000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Reader_1000) which was perfectly sized for reading A4/letter papers. But it is bulky and has no wireless connectivity.
    - bildung 13y ago
      I have an Onyx BOOX M92: https://onyx-boox.com/productsinfo/onyx-boox-m92-black-pearl/ https://onyx-boox.com/productsinfo/onyx-boox-m92-black-pearl... It did cost 300€/420$ a year and a half ago. The alternative at that time was the Pocketbook Pro 912 (http://www.pocketbook-int.com/de/products/pocketbook-912 http://www.pocketbook-int.com/de/products/pocketbook-912) at around the same pricepoint, but that seemed less open (technically both run Linux, but Pocketbook didn't publish their modified sources).
- noahl 13y ago
  it's just a shame there's no SDK I noticed that the battery life is 3 weeks. Given the size of the product (not large), it's safe to say that they get that battery life by doing as little as possible. It may be that they don't have enough processing power to run any sort of apps, or if they did, it would drain the battery so much that it would ruin the device. With that said, it would still be cool to try. It should at least be able to support a calculator.
  - fidotron 13y ago
    As long as you don't busy wait and only update the parts of the screen that change it's not too hard to write software which doesn't impact battery life too much. EDIT: To add, obviously minimise network connections. And if you do need them, batch them.
  - Groxx 13y ago
    Nah. Nook Simple Touches can be rooted and run Android just fine. As long as wifi is off (thus disabling the vast majority of app background syncing / periodic updates) it easily lasts a couple weeks. For that you can run a surprising number of apps just fine in a ridiculously-limited available RAM space. I can't imagine this would be anywhere near as slow as a NST, so it should be able to do just about everything except play 3D games and visit crazy-bad websites.
  - onthiscarousel 13y ago
    The test model I used for a month only needed one charge, it works a lot like the black and white kindle and the document stays static on the screen and the device only really turns on when you write on it or turn pages.
- acc01 13y ago
  > The hardware is lustworthy what part? I have a 1440x1080 ereader retailing at $170.
  - noir_lord 13y ago
    Which one?
    - acc01 13y ago
      https://www.kobo.com/koboaurahd https://www.kobo.com/koboaurahd
NotOscarWilde 13y ago
> Looks like a dream. Indeed. As a PhD student that reads and annotates a ton of scientific papers, this really seems like something that could help me do my job much better. Please, if any of you manage to get your hands on one, I would love a hands-on review with a lot of pictures. The price is really high, that's true, but I can see top people in academia or enthusiasts like me adopting it.
- doorhammer 13y ago
  Have you checked out the surface pro 2? I'm a sucker for being able to write notes by hand, and when I tried out the surface pro 2 I was pretty blown away by how nice the handwriting felt. Also seems to be in the same price range, and you end up with a full blown PC (which may not be what you're shooting for). One more thing that I liked is how natural it was to use one note to make notes, cut a part out, and move it around. When I'm sketching ideas out, or learning math stuff, it's always nice to be able to move a snippet over really quickly. I also used to review and edit a lot of training materials that were being designed, and I was using an ipad 2 with PDFExpert, which was pretty great for that, but I always hated how crap the ipad was for writing things with a stylus or a finger. If I could go back and do it again with a surface pro 2, I would in a heartbeat. I tried other larger form factor e-ink devices like the Kindle DX and such, but if the screen wasn't big enough to fit the entire page on the screen at once, it didn't matter how big the screen was. The device just ended up being too slow. I liked the ipad because I could swipe around, highlight, circle things, make notes, etc. Obviously the battery life on the surface pro 2 wouldn't be in the same universe as this thing, and it's bulkier, but just thought I'd throw it out there. Kind of rambly, heh, YMMV
  - deong 13y ago
    I have a DX in the closet, and even if the screen is big enough, it's still too slow. The other huge problem with the DX or any other e-ink reader so far is the lack of note-taking. I hoped the DX would be good for academic papers, but it just isn't.
    - 13y ago

fidotron 13y ago

Techcrunch say it will be $1100. The hardware is lustworthy, though the resolution could be higher, it's just a shame there's no SDK. The buttons on the front look very old school Androidish.

bildung 13y ago
> The hardware is lustworthy, though the resolution could be higher, it's just a shame there's no SDK. The buttons on the front look very old school Androidish. I have a 10" e-ink device with 1200x825px which is perfectly fine for A4/letter-designed PDFs, so I'd say the resolution should be fine. I also have a 10" notebook, and the readability is considerably worse at about the same resolution, so I guess e-ink resolutions are not really comparable with lcd resolutions (the pixel layout is quite different: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3090/2286311679_f98bdba47f_m.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3090/2286311679_f98bdba47f_m....).
- j_s 13y ago
  Which device do you have? The Kindle DX is 9.7" Visionect sells developer-friendly (SDK included) 6" and 9.7" devices starting around $500: http://www.visionect.com/ http://www.visionect.com/
  - adiM 13y ago
    Don't know about the GP, but I have an iRex DR1000 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Reader_1000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Reader_1000) which was perfectly sized for reading A4/letter papers. But it is bulky and has no wireless connectivity.
  - bildung 13y ago
    I have an Onyx BOOX M92: https://onyx-boox.com/productsinfo/onyx-boox-m92-black-pearl/ https://onyx-boox.com/productsinfo/onyx-boox-m92-black-pearl... It did cost 300€/420$ a year and a half ago. The alternative at that time was the Pocketbook Pro 912 (http://www.pocketbook-int.com/de/products/pocketbook-912 http://www.pocketbook-int.com/de/products/pocketbook-912) at around the same pricepoint, but that seemed less open (technically both run Linux, but Pocketbook didn't publish their modified sources).
noahl 13y ago
it's just a shame there's no SDK I noticed that the battery life is 3 weeks. Given the size of the product (not large), it's safe to say that they get that battery life by doing as little as possible. It may be that they don't have enough processing power to run any sort of apps, or if they did, it would drain the battery so much that it would ruin the device. With that said, it would still be cool to try. It should at least be able to support a calculator.
- fidotron 13y ago
  As long as you don't busy wait and only update the parts of the screen that change it's not too hard to write software which doesn't impact battery life too much. EDIT: To add, obviously minimise network connections. And if you do need them, batch them.
- Groxx 13y ago
  Nah. Nook Simple Touches can be rooted and run Android just fine. As long as wifi is off (thus disabling the vast majority of app background syncing / periodic updates) it easily lasts a couple weeks. For that you can run a surprising number of apps just fine in a ridiculously-limited available RAM space. I can't imagine this would be anywhere near as slow as a NST, so it should be able to do just about everything except play 3D games and visit crazy-bad websites.
- onthiscarousel 13y ago
  The test model I used for a month only needed one charge, it works a lot like the black and white kindle and the document stays static on the screen and the device only really turns on when you write on it or turn pages.
acc01 13y ago
> The hardware is lustworthy what part? I have a 1440x1080 ereader retailing at $170.
- noir_lord 13y ago
  Which one?
  - acc01 13y ago
    https://www.kobo.com/koboaurahd https://www.kobo.com/koboaurahd

NotOscarWilde 13y ago

> Looks like a dream. Indeed. As a PhD student that reads and annotates a ton of scientific papers, this really seems like something that could help me do my job much better. Please, if any of you manage to get your hands on one, I would love a hands-on review with a lot of pictures. The price is really high, that's true, but I can see top people in academia or enthusiasts like me adopting it.

doorhammer 13y ago
Have you checked out the surface pro 2? I'm a sucker for being able to write notes by hand, and when I tried out the surface pro 2 I was pretty blown away by how nice the handwriting felt. Also seems to be in the same price range, and you end up with a full blown PC (which may not be what you're shooting for). One more thing that I liked is how natural it was to use one note to make notes, cut a part out, and move it around. When I'm sketching ideas out, or learning math stuff, it's always nice to be able to move a snippet over really quickly. I also used to review and edit a lot of training materials that were being designed, and I was using an ipad 2 with PDFExpert, which was pretty great for that, but I always hated how crap the ipad was for writing things with a stylus or a finger. If I could go back and do it again with a surface pro 2, I would in a heartbeat. I tried other larger form factor e-ink devices like the Kindle DX and such, but if the screen wasn't big enough to fit the entire page on the screen at once, it didn't matter how big the screen was. The device just ended up being too slow. I liked the ipad because I could swipe around, highlight, circle things, make notes, etc. Obviously the battery life on the surface pro 2 wouldn't be in the same universe as this thing, and it's bulkier, but just thought I'd throw it out there. Kind of rambly, heh, YMMV
- deong 13y ago
  I have a DX in the closet, and even if the screen is big enough, it's still too slow. The other huge problem with the DX or any other e-ink reader so far is the lack of note-taking. I hoped the DX would be good for academic papers, but it just isn't.
  - 13y ago