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The way I see it with Unreal is that the 5% of your gross revenue is the real price and in the article it is put in parentheses as if it doesn't matter! If you

by orng 13y ago

The way I see it with Unreal is that the 5% of your gross revenue is the real price and in the article it is put in parentheses as if it doesn't matter! If you are successful it could be a lot more than buying a license the old fashioned way would have been! I don't know if that classifies as "cheap". Edit: added a missing word.

chris_wot 13y ago
If you find it hard to buy the software upfront, it does take away some of the initial risks, at a cost later. Some people may go for it - good for them I say.
- obsurveyor 13y ago
  Agreeing to a 5% royalty is pretty crazy in my opinion. If you're even planning on being able to support just a modest salary for yourself with your game sales, Unity or CryEngine are better deals. The UE license is only worth it if you plan on making less than $15,000 a year.
  - cdash 13y ago
    Neither of those give you access to the source code of the engine.
RyanZAG 13y ago
Agreed. For an example, Mass Effect 3 is a relatively recent game on the Unreal engine that sold over 1.5 million copies + DLC, probably for revenue of something like $100mil. 5% of that $100mil per successful game should be enough to keep Epic in business.
- socialist_coder 13y ago
  AFAIK Every AAA game pays a flat rate per game (in the 100k-500k range), not the rev share. The rev share agreement would only be for indie / non-pros. Based on industry knowledge, the AAA flat rate game licencing costs don't seem to be going down. One reason might be that once you have a few Unreal engine / Cryengine games under your belt, the cost to switch engines is HUGE. You're basically locked in unless you want to re-hire / re-train the majority of your programmers.
- mynameismiek 13y ago
  Epic is still offering other licensing structures as needed/requested for their larger clients. I'm sure if you had a game explode and start selling millions of copies they would work with you to come up with a different licensing scheme so you weren't paying them millions (plural) of dollars, but possibly some smaller set amount and a smaller royalty.

by orng 13y ago

chris_wot 13y ago

If you find it hard to buy the software upfront, it does take away some of the initial risks, at a cost later. Some people may go for it - good for them I say.

obsurveyor 13y ago
Agreeing to a 5% royalty is pretty crazy in my opinion. If you're even planning on being able to support just a modest salary for yourself with your game sales, Unity or CryEngine are better deals. The UE license is only worth it if you plan on making less than $15,000 a year.
- cdash 13y ago
  Neither of those give you access to the source code of the engine.

RyanZAG 13y ago

Agreed. For an example, Mass Effect 3 is a relatively recent game on the Unreal engine that sold over 1.5 million copies + DLC, probably for revenue of something like $100mil. 5% of that $100mil per successful game should be enough to keep Epic in business.

socialist_coder 13y ago
AFAIK Every AAA game pays a flat rate per game (in the 100k-500k range), not the rev share. The rev share agreement would only be for indie / non-pros. Based on industry knowledge, the AAA flat rate game licencing costs don't seem to be going down. One reason might be that once you have a few Unreal engine / Cryengine games under your belt, the cost to switch engines is HUGE. You're basically locked in unless you want to re-hire / re-train the majority of your programmers.
mynameismiek 13y ago
Epic is still offering other licensing structures as needed/requested for their larger clients. I'm sure if you had a game explode and start selling millions of copies they would work with you to come up with a different licensing scheme so you weren't paying them millions (plural) of dollars, but possibly some smaller set amount and a smaller royalty.