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Based on your experience is it stable enough to upgrade to already? Previously some final betas were.

by herokusaki 13y ago

neverminder 13y ago
I've been on it for a week now. It froze on me once on the lock screen, didn't notice anything else.
ayi 13y ago
some ppas are not updated, so if you rely on them you should wait.
- diydsp 13y ago
  I don't know if you know the answer, but I'm curious: There's a ppa for arm-gcc that I want to use (https://launchpad.net/gcc-arm-embedded https://launchpad.net/gcc-arm-embedded) , but so far it's still on Ubuntu 13.04. How is it possible to try to make the ppa work on Ubuntu 14.04? What are the steps involved? Is there some way to find out how the ppa was made for Ubuntu 13.04 and recreate those steps on 14.04?
popey 13y ago
Yeah, I've been running it for some weeks on my laptop and desktop. It's been pretty robust (Intel video driver issues aside) for me.
pizza234 13y ago
I've found the Ubuntu [Desktop] stability to be in constant decline over the time, even experiencing bugs in the installers in the latest versions. A few notes: - the "stability" I refer to is always minor errors - I remove lots of packages every time I install it, although I've experienced system error notifications even when I didn't uninstall anything All in all, I'd say that there is a lack of polishing, at the low-level, more than lack of stability. There is no excuse for having the installation fail, though, and it happened a number of times. To reply the question directly, I've used betas a few times, and they worked as much as the final version for me. I wouldn't do it now though - in the past, for my usage, some types of changes were very significant; today, I get very little in upgrading.
- chrismonsanto 13y ago
  > I've found the Ubuntu [Desktop] stability to be in constant decline over the time I wish I never upgraded to 13.10. Sometimes drag-maximizing my window can crash my entire system. And compiz leaks memory like a sieve, sometimes I will wake up to find compiz using ~5.5gb of memory and the system will be unusable. Gotta restart! When I first upgraded, I thought "oh, it's always like this at the start, they'll fix it." And here we are at the next version and it still hasn't been fixed. Probably jumping ship (to another Linux distro) once my next work deadline passes.
  - kator 13y ago
    Or maybe dig in and contribute a fix?
    - chrismonsanto 13y ago
      Is this a serious suggestion? I can't even reliably reproduce it. It just happens randomly. The problem could be unity. It could be in compiz. It could be in the nvidia drivers, which I don't even have the source to. Who knows what in that mess causes my system to lock up. Regardless, I do not have enough loyalty to Ubuntu to do this kind of work. There are a number of open source projects that I am involved with, and if I spend time on this (likely to be fruitless) endeavor, I end up with less time to spend on projects I care about. My post is purely to vent, and to serve as a warning for those looking to try Ubuntu Desktop. My personal opinion is to try something else. I am.
      - popey 13y ago
        For anyone who does have the time and inclination to debug this there are some comprehensive docs on the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Debugging https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Debugging - I've used these steps to get backtraces before so devs can get stuff fixed.
  - popey 13y ago
    There was a nasty bug recently with xorg (Intel driver) eating RAM then the kernel OOM killer would swoop in and kill the desktop. I filed a bug on launchpad and the upstream Intel driver maintainer was super attentive and got it fixed. It was a rough time while the issue was around, but it happens..
pervycreeper 13y ago
One data point: been using 14.4 since early this month. Sound output suddenly stopped working two days ago, but no catastrophic events have occurred so far.
- brokenparser 13y ago
  pulseaudio -k Tried that? Maybe if you use a previous kernel?

Based on your experience is it stable enough to upgrade to already? Previously some final betas were.

neverminder 13y ago

I've been on it for a week now. It froze on me once on the lock screen, didn't notice anything else.

ayi 13y ago

some ppas are not updated, so if you rely on them you should wait.

diydsp 13y ago
I don't know if you know the answer, but I'm curious: There's a ppa for arm-gcc that I want to use (https://launchpad.net/gcc-arm-embedded https://launchpad.net/gcc-arm-embedded) , but so far it's still on Ubuntu 13.04. How is it possible to try to make the ppa work on Ubuntu 14.04? What are the steps involved? Is there some way to find out how the ppa was made for Ubuntu 13.04 and recreate those steps on 14.04?

popey 13y ago

Yeah, I've been running it for some weeks on my laptop and desktop. It's been pretty robust (Intel video driver issues aside) for me.

pizza234 13y ago

I've found the Ubuntu [Desktop] stability to be in constant decline over the time, even experiencing bugs in the installers in the latest versions. A few notes: - the "stability" I refer to is always minor errors - I remove lots of packages every time I install it, although I've experienced system error notifications even when I didn't uninstall anything All in all, I'd say that there is a lack of polishing, at the low-level, more than lack of stability. There is no excuse for having the installation fail, though, and it happened a number of times. To reply the question directly, I've used betas a few times, and they worked as much as the final version for me. I wouldn't do it now though - in the past, for my usage, some types of changes were very significant; today, I get very little in upgrading.

chrismonsanto 13y ago
> I've found the Ubuntu [Desktop] stability to be in constant decline over the time I wish I never upgraded to 13.10. Sometimes drag-maximizing my window can crash my entire system. And compiz leaks memory like a sieve, sometimes I will wake up to find compiz using ~5.5gb of memory and the system will be unusable. Gotta restart! When I first upgraded, I thought "oh, it's always like this at the start, they'll fix it." And here we are at the next version and it still hasn't been fixed. Probably jumping ship (to another Linux distro) once my next work deadline passes.
- kator 13y ago
  Or maybe dig in and contribute a fix?
  - chrismonsanto 13y ago
    Is this a serious suggestion? I can't even reliably reproduce it. It just happens randomly. The problem could be unity. It could be in compiz. It could be in the nvidia drivers, which I don't even have the source to. Who knows what in that mess causes my system to lock up. Regardless, I do not have enough loyalty to Ubuntu to do this kind of work. There are a number of open source projects that I am involved with, and if I spend time on this (likely to be fruitless) endeavor, I end up with less time to spend on projects I care about. My post is purely to vent, and to serve as a warning for those looking to try Ubuntu Desktop. My personal opinion is to try something else. I am.
    - popey 13y ago
      For anyone who does have the time and inclination to debug this there are some comprehensive docs on the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Debugging https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Debugging - I've used these steps to get backtraces before so devs can get stuff fixed.
- popey 13y ago
  There was a nasty bug recently with xorg (Intel driver) eating RAM then the kernel OOM killer would swoop in and kill the desktop. I filed a bug on launchpad and the upstream Intel driver maintainer was super attentive and got it fixed. It was a rough time while the issue was around, but it happens..

pervycreeper 13y ago

One data point: been using 14.4 since early this month. Sound output suddenly stopped working two days ago, but no catastrophic events have occurred so far.

brokenparser 13y ago
pulseaudio -k Tried that? Maybe if you use a previous kernel?