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Sorry but screen width is a pretty dumb reason to drop a rich experience on larger screens. It's just another media query. Why can't 27 inch/high res/super du
by 1stop 13y ago
Sorry but screen width is a pretty dumb reason to drop a rich experience on larger screens.
It's just another media query.
Why can't 27 inch/high res/super duper screens get the awesome layout, and shitty "poor people" screens get the shitty layout?
- ntaso 13y agoBut an inconsistent experience, if the page looks vastly different for some people than for others.
- 1stop 13y agoIt doesn't have to look vastly different, it just has to look 'designed' for each screen size. This isn't a difficult problem... I'm wondering if responsive web design is a foreign concept within facebook. :\
- spazmaster 13y agoFacebook.com isn't responsive (you'll see fixed width's, just check it out), so it does seem that responsive design is something they disregard purposefully.
- joshfraser 13y agoFacebook cares too much about their performance to use responsive design.
- danabramov 13y agoI don't get why you're downvoted. Toggling between two completely different newsfeeds based on screen size is not responsive—it's inconsistent. If you don't agree, check out how different the old and the new feed are.
- madeofpalk 13y agowhat if... there's a middle ground? If facebook was set on using media queries, im sure they would have kept the same general design but just optimised layout and spacing for different screen sizes.
- d23 13y agoYou guys are going down a pointless path of pedantry. The original attack suggested Facebook's sole reason for making the decision was advertising metrics. This person is saying that isn't true. I'm guessing the team running one of the top trafficked sites in the world is aware of media queries.
- madeofpalk 13y agoYeah that was kind of my point... I got sucked in.
- cliveowen 13y agoPeople are used to different experiences on different devices. You can argue that they expect mobile and desktop versions to differ, but I can also argue that a 10-inch netbook is a very different device from a Retina MacBook.
- makomk 13y agoFacebook already has an inconsistent experience. For instance, I've been viewing Facebook with this new design for a few days now, whereas other people are presumably still on the old one.
- jamesie 13y agoThis is mostly a function of ramping up to Facebook scale and is a temporary inconsistency.
- calinet6 13y agoAs a UX designer, there are all kinds of reasons the design could have been unsuccessful, on small screens or just in general. Media queries don't fix everything.
- 1stop 13y agoI'm sorry, but they fix EXACTLY that problem. If you need a UI to work at different sizes... that is what media queries are for. The design can change quite drastically using media queries. I can look at facebook for about 2 minutes to see how they could improve at different sizes.
- calinet6 13y agoThey fix exactly what problem? The single problem of the sizing of components on the screen? Great! I did not mention one problem—I alluded to many. What about the problem of people not clicking links? What about the problem of users not understanding how to navigate to events? How about lack of awareness of which of your friends are online? Etc. etc. Media queries fix exactly one problem. The size and position of elements on different sized screens. There are thousands of other things to evaluate in a design that have nothing to do with that. I realize you're focused on this specific issue, but Facebook has to worry about all of them at once. Media queries don't fix everything.
- 1stop 13y agoThey could do both (like every other competent UX team does). All of those problems are still their, I was responding to the point made in the post, that they couldn't ship the awesome design, because there are people with little screens... That is what responsive is for, meaning they could have shipped exactly what they shipped PLUS the awesome design (that they themselves, said was awesome). So yes, media queries fix exactly their problem, as they had two designs that they liked, but one was only good for big screens, the other for little screens. To put it more bluntly they had already solved all the other issues (and more) you talked about... just the screen size was the only problem (cited in that post!)
- witty_username 13y ago> shitty "poor people" You've offended billions.
- jacalata 13y agoin case you are serious: the full quote was 'shitty "poor people" screens' which parses not to 'shitty poor people' but to 'shitty screens for poor people' and is not really offensive.