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WebScale is supposed to be a branch, not a fork but since you asked: Percona built a business on 'their' version and operate on the RedHat business model. As s

WebScale is supposed to be a branch, not a fork but since you asked: Percona built a business on 'their' version and operate on the RedHat business model. As such they need a blessed copy for their business model to function. MariaDB is basically a bid to take control of MySQL back by one of the original MySQL developers. Etc. Tbh, the main problem is Oracle has been a terrible steward of MySQL which has led to this mess.

mdcallag 13y ago
I think Oracle has been a good steward. They haven't been perfect but they have done a great job at paying back technical debt and making the product better for modern hardware.
spudlyo 13y ago
Both releases (5.5 and 5.6) since Oracle acquired MySQL have been mostly pain-free and have brought excellent scalability and performance improvements. If you remember the fiasco that Sun gave us with MySQL 5.1, I think you'd find Oracle's stewardship a welcome change.
- opendais 13y ago
  Everyone is welcome to their opinion but, personally, I switched to Maria because I think they are better stewards of an open source project than Oracle is. http://mysqlha.blogspot.com/2012/08/less-open-source.html http://mysqlha.blogspot.com/2012/08/less-open-source.html etc. etc. You are free to hold a separate and equally valid opinion. :)
  - mdcallag 13y ago
    I guess I am free to hold both opinions. That is my blog. As I write elsewhere on this page I think Oracle has been a good steward of MySQL, but have not been perfect. Maybe they will improve?
    - opendais 13y ago
      That would be the hope. :)
cwyers 13y ago
Percona is no more a fork than Webscale is, it's supposed to be a drop-in replacement for Oracle MySQL and it tracks releases pretty closely. MariaDB was supposed to be a drop-in replacement, but they always had much grander designs than Percona or Webscale do, so they found it was no longer in their interests to track upstream so closely. So after 5.5, MariaDB was going to jump straight to version 10.0. 5.5 is still the last stable release of MariaDB, though, even though Oracle MySQL hit 5.6 over a year ago. I think "terrible steward" is way off base. 5.5 and 5.6 have both been good releases with some pretty significant improvements for real users, and there's even more stuff coming in 5.7. My general impression is that MariaDB doesn't have the resources to keep up with what Oracle is doing technically, and I'm betting that technical merits will win out.
- isomorphic 13y ago
  http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/09/12/google_mariadb_mysql_migration/ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/09/12/google_mariadb_mysql... Also, I read somewhere that Google is contributing engineers to work on Maria. Although how many and for how long (compared to the GOOG's internal databases) remains to be seen.
  - mdcallag 13y ago
    I love TheReg, but I am not sure I would use them as a primary source.
  - cwyers 13y ago
    Google is contributing code to WebscaleDB too, I don't know that their support of MariaDB means anything in this context. If you want MySQL+Google enhancements, WebscaleDB seems to give you that, plus the efforts of Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn and (since Webscale is not a fork) Oracle.
morgo 13y ago
It would not be a stretch to call percona server a branch as well. It has rebased twice already (5.5 and 5.6) and tries to focus on high impact small changes. Not to make excuses, but oracles position of supporting releases for 8 years on many platforms is not an easy one. Being able to see what works out in branches that don't have this constraint is actually great for the whole ecosystem. (Disclaimer: former percona employee. Current oracle employee)

mdcallag 13y ago

I think Oracle has been a good steward. They haven't been perfect but they have done a great job at paying back technical debt and making the product better for modern hardware.

spudlyo 13y ago

Both releases (5.5 and 5.6) since Oracle acquired MySQL have been mostly pain-free and have brought excellent scalability and performance improvements. If you remember the fiasco that Sun gave us with MySQL 5.1, I think you'd find Oracle's stewardship a welcome change.

opendais 13y ago
Everyone is welcome to their opinion but, personally, I switched to Maria because I think they are better stewards of an open source project than Oracle is. http://mysqlha.blogspot.com/2012/08/less-open-source.html http://mysqlha.blogspot.com/2012/08/less-open-source.html etc. etc. You are free to hold a separate and equally valid opinion. :)
- mdcallag 13y ago
  I guess I am free to hold both opinions. That is my blog. As I write elsewhere on this page I think Oracle has been a good steward of MySQL, but have not been perfect. Maybe they will improve?
  - opendais 13y ago
    That would be the hope. :)

cwyers 13y ago

Percona is no more a fork than Webscale is, it's supposed to be a drop-in replacement for Oracle MySQL and it tracks releases pretty closely. MariaDB was supposed to be a drop-in replacement, but they always had much grander designs than Percona or Webscale do, so they found it was no longer in their interests to track upstream so closely. So after 5.5, MariaDB was going to jump straight to version 10.0. 5.5 is still the last stable release of MariaDB, though, even though Oracle MySQL hit 5.6 over a year ago. I think "terrible steward" is way off base. 5.5 and 5.6 have both been good releases with some pretty significant improvements for real users, and there's even more stuff coming in 5.7. My general impression is that MariaDB doesn't have the resources to keep up with what Oracle is doing technically, and I'm betting that technical merits will win out.

isomorphic 13y ago
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/09/12/google_mariadb_mysql_migration/ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/09/12/google_mariadb_mysql... Also, I read somewhere that Google is contributing engineers to work on Maria. Although how many and for how long (compared to the GOOG's internal databases) remains to be seen.
- mdcallag 13y ago
  I love TheReg, but I am not sure I would use them as a primary source.
- cwyers 13y ago
  Google is contributing code to WebscaleDB too, I don't know that their support of MariaDB means anything in this context. If you want MySQL+Google enhancements, WebscaleDB seems to give you that, plus the efforts of Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn and (since Webscale is not a fork) Oracle.

morgo 13y ago

It would not be a stretch to call percona server a branch as well. It has rebased twice already (5.5 and 5.6) and tries to focus on high impact small changes. Not to make excuses, but oracles position of supporting releases for 8 years on many platforms is not an easy one. Being able to see what works out in branches that don't have this constraint is actually great for the whole ecosystem. (Disclaimer: former percona employee. Current oracle employee)