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You're right, their definition of 'medical bankruptcy' does include that person if the $1,001 wasn't covered by insurance, in the cases where they were comparin
by calambrac 17y ago
You're right, their definition of 'medical bankruptcy' does include that person if the $1,001 wasn't covered by insurance, in the cases where they were comparing the results to their 2001 study which used the same criteria.
Their new results, however, apply a stricter standard, upping the bottom line number to $5,000 or 10% of household income, and they report a change of less than 1% if they eliminate the hard $5,000 and just go with 10% of income.
You seem to be claiming that people who are going to go bankrupt even if you remove their medical expenses are somehow meaningless data points for the question being asked by the study. That makes no sense, though. The cases that make it into the study are 'Medical debt below threshold, bankrupt anyways', 'Medical debt above threshold, bankrupt regardless', 'Medical debt above threshold, bankrupt as a result'. You're saying that we shouldn't care that the first category is proportionately shrinking, because it may be the case that the second category is accounting for all of that shrinkage. Even if that were true, that's still a reliable indicator that medical costs are growing.
Your "no control group" criticism makes absolutely no sense here. What are they controlling for? They aren't running an experiment, they're reporting on the proportion of bankruptcies that meet a particular definition, and how that proportion has changed over time.
- yummyfajitas 17y agoI'm disputing this claim: "80% of US bankruptcies are due to unexpected medical bills." I'm not disputing this claim: "80% of US bankruptcies meet Elizabeth Warren's Criteria #1." Her criteria is simply an arbitrary cutoff, and does not prove causality. If a person spent 10% of income on medicine, but 30% on gambling or taxes, it is unfair to attribute the bankruptcy to medical spending. The control group would be needed to measure whether medical costs are correlated with increased bankruptcy. Incidentally, total bankruptcies went down (in absolute number). Medical bankruptcies (by her definition) roughly stayed the same in absolute number. This is most of the explanation for the increased proportion of medical bankruptcies.