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Every year I read on HN that this year is Haskell's year. What's so different about 2014? The whole 'only for REAL PROGRAMMERS ' argument still hasn't gotten an

Every year I read on HN that this year is Haskell's year. What's so different about 2014? The whole 'only for REAL PROGRAMMERS ' argument still hasn't gotten any traction, my dudes, lisper's been trying it since the beginning of time. Anyone got a link to a good todo-mvc implementation or something like that?

copergi 13y ago
>Every year I read on HN that this year is Haskell's year Really? Every year I read on haskell a bunch of uniformed dismissal of haskell from people who seem to have a deep seated hatred of learning. How do you get "this year is haskell's year" from his comment at all? >Anyone got a link to a good todo-mvc implementation A what? MVC is an object oriented pattern, I would certainly hope nobody tried to do it in haskell.
- ulisesrmzroche 13y ago
  Every year, on a Haskell thread, someone calls me a noob for not knowing it. Then you get like the same 3 or 4 dudes talking about how it's only a matter of time until the enterprise picks it up and all the dumb people go away. The some stuff about static analysis, and I'm like, that's it? I just want to see a working to-do list application, or anything resembling that size.
  - copergi 13y ago
    >Every year, on a Haskell thread, someone calls me a noob for not knowing it. That sounds a lot like you putting words in other people's mouths. I've never seen anything like that. >Then you get like the same 3 or 4 dudes talking about how it's only a matter of time until the enterprise picks it up and all the dumb people go away. Or that. >I just want to see a working to-do list application, or anything resembling that size before we start the name-calling. Now I am even more confused. Why do you want to call people names, who do you want to call names, and why do you want to see some random toy app first?
    - ulisesrmzroche 13y ago
      "In fact the things that make Haskell better are probably difficult to appreciate by a lot of younger programmers who are using relatively new languages and frameworks like Node and Rails" Are you reading this stuff? I'm not going to talk to you if you're just being a dick. I know you can read, so stop being obtuse. Come up with something, quick.
      - copergi 13y ago
        Yes, I am reading it. That does not say anything even remotely close to "ulisesrmzroche is a noob for not knowing haskell". I am not being a dick, I am being polite and trying to understand where you are coming from. I don't see how insulting me helps either of us, only how it makes your claims that "haskell people keep insulting me" rather hypocritical.
        ulisesrmzroche 13y ago
        Ok, nevermind dude. You're either not being honest or really can't understand nuance in the English language, which, either or, doesn't give us a lot of room for arguing. Saying 'a lot of younger programmers probably don't appreciate the best parts of haskell' is clear Ageism. I think it's annoying.
        copergi 13y ago
        >Saying 'a lot of younger programmers probably don't appreciate the best parts of haskell' is clear age-ism No it isn't. >I think it's annoying. Ok, but that doesn't support the claim you made and I questioned.
        ulisesrmzroche 13y ago
        Are you for real? It's like deja-vu. I guess I should know better by now. There's probably some guy in a lisp thread who has been on my end of this argument for the last 20 years or so. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ageism#Ageist_prejudice http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ageism#Ageist_prejudice

copergi 13y ago

>Every year I read on HN that this year is Haskell's year Really? Every year I read on haskell a bunch of uniformed dismissal of haskell from people who seem to have a deep seated hatred of learning. How do you get "this year is haskell's year" from his comment at all? >Anyone got a link to a good todo-mvc implementation A what? MVC is an object oriented pattern, I would certainly hope nobody tried to do it in haskell.

ulisesrmzroche 13y ago
Every year, on a Haskell thread, someone calls me a noob for not knowing it. Then you get like the same 3 or 4 dudes talking about how it's only a matter of time until the enterprise picks it up and all the dumb people go away. The some stuff about static analysis, and I'm like, that's it? I just want to see a working to-do list application, or anything resembling that size.
- copergi 13y ago
  >Every year, on a Haskell thread, someone calls me a noob for not knowing it. That sounds a lot like you putting words in other people's mouths. I've never seen anything like that. >Then you get like the same 3 or 4 dudes talking about how it's only a matter of time until the enterprise picks it up and all the dumb people go away. Or that. >I just want to see a working to-do list application, or anything resembling that size before we start the name-calling. Now I am even more confused. Why do you want to call people names, who do you want to call names, and why do you want to see some random toy app first?
  - ulisesrmzroche 13y ago
    "In fact the things that make Haskell better are probably difficult to appreciate by a lot of younger programmers who are using relatively new languages and frameworks like Node and Rails" Are you reading this stuff? I'm not going to talk to you if you're just being a dick. I know you can read, so stop being obtuse. Come up with something, quick.
    - copergi 13y ago
      Yes, I am reading it. That does not say anything even remotely close to "ulisesrmzroche is a noob for not knowing haskell". I am not being a dick, I am being polite and trying to understand where you are coming from. I don't see how insulting me helps either of us, only how it makes your claims that "haskell people keep insulting me" rather hypocritical.
      - ulisesrmzroche 13y ago
        Ok, nevermind dude. You're either not being honest or really can't understand nuance in the English language, which, either or, doesn't give us a lot of room for arguing. Saying 'a lot of younger programmers probably don't appreciate the best parts of haskell' is clear Ageism. I think it's annoying.
        copergi 13y ago
        >Saying 'a lot of younger programmers probably don't appreciate the best parts of haskell' is clear age-ism No it isn't. >I think it's annoying. Ok, but that doesn't support the claim you made and I questioned.
        ulisesrmzroche 13y ago
        Are you for real? It's like deja-vu. I guess I should know better by now. There's probably some guy in a lisp thread who has been on my end of this argument for the last 20 years or so. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ageism#Ageist_prejudice http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ageism#Ageist_prejudice