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He probably didn't want his donation to be public information and now he, and all of us, know exactly why large donators sometimes do everything they can to con

He probably didn't want his donation to be public information and now he, and all of us, know exactly why large donators sometimes do everything they can to conceal themselves. Events like this, whether 6 years late or not, give good reason to not have to reveal yourself when donating. I mean it's quite literally still haunting him. Whether he still feels the same way or not. Also it's one thing to cease doing business with an organization yourself. It's another thing entirely to try to incite other people to do the same using your notoriety as a tool for coercion. Times change, people change, records do not. It's hard to explain what you were thinking and what was happening 6 years ago. It's easy to point a finger now and say, "look at what that asshole did."

jnbiche 13y ago
Who is using their "notoriety as a tool for coercion"? And if Eich no longer feels the same way, I suspect he could put an end to this by simply writing a blog post stating this. But I suspect that's not the case. I've done things in the past that I'm not proud of, but I'm quick to disavow them when they come up. Are you implying that we shouldn't be held responsible for our past actions?
- shittyanalogy 13y ago
  Are you implying that because someone does or does not write a blog post that somehow we know their true feelings?
  - jnbiche 13y ago
    Of course not, but at some point we have to take most people at their word, otherwise life becomes difficult. You didn't answer my question. I'm genuinely interested in who you're talking about who's using their notoriety to "coerce" people.
    - shittyanalogy 13y ago
      We do not have to take people at their word about their opinions. That's childish. You will never know what anyone truly feels because you are not them. You can let them fill you with whatever they want or you can just continue your life observing their actions and planning yours accordingly. You can take his lack of blog posting denouncing his previous donation as a clear indicator that he's a homophobe, or you can understand that life is more complicated than that. As per your previous question, the article is thus: http://www.teamrarebit.com/blog/2014/03/24/goodbye_firefox_marketplace/ http://www.teamrarebit.com/blog/2014/03/24/goodbye_firefox_m... Now I'm not saying that people shouldn't act on their strong convictions, I'm merely saying that those in charge of team rarebit have decided to publicly incite ill will towards a person who made a donation on public record 6 years ago. I have no interest in deciding who is right or wrong. I'm simply pointing out that they are giving very good reason for people to want to keep their donations completely private.
- jtgeibel 13y ago
  Here is a link to something he just posted to his blog: https://brendaneich.com/2014/03/inclusiveness-at-mozilla/ https://brendaneich.com/2014/03/inclusiveness-at-mozilla/

jnbiche 13y ago

Who is using their "notoriety as a tool for coercion"? And if Eich no longer feels the same way, I suspect he could put an end to this by simply writing a blog post stating this. But I suspect that's not the case. I've done things in the past that I'm not proud of, but I'm quick to disavow them when they come up. Are you implying that we shouldn't be held responsible for our past actions?

shittyanalogy 13y ago
Are you implying that because someone does or does not write a blog post that somehow we know their true feelings?
- jnbiche 13y ago
  Of course not, but at some point we have to take most people at their word, otherwise life becomes difficult. You didn't answer my question. I'm genuinely interested in who you're talking about who's using their notoriety to "coerce" people.
  - shittyanalogy 13y ago
    We do not have to take people at their word about their opinions. That's childish. You will never know what anyone truly feels because you are not them. You can let them fill you with whatever they want or you can just continue your life observing their actions and planning yours accordingly. You can take his lack of blog posting denouncing his previous donation as a clear indicator that he's a homophobe, or you can understand that life is more complicated than that. As per your previous question, the article is thus: http://www.teamrarebit.com/blog/2014/03/24/goodbye_firefox_marketplace/ http://www.teamrarebit.com/blog/2014/03/24/goodbye_firefox_m... Now I'm not saying that people shouldn't act on their strong convictions, I'm merely saying that those in charge of team rarebit have decided to publicly incite ill will towards a person who made a donation on public record 6 years ago. I have no interest in deciding who is right or wrong. I'm simply pointing out that they are giving very good reason for people to want to keep their donations completely private.
jtgeibel 13y ago
Here is a link to something he just posted to his blog: https://brendaneich.com/2014/03/inclusiveness-at-mozilla/ https://brendaneich.com/2014/03/inclusiveness-at-mozilla/