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It's funny. I want to either give your comment a "+1 Me too!" response, or a huge rant on software quality and the language quagmire we're in with weak (C++/Ja

It's funny. I want to either give your comment a "+1 Me too!" response, or a huge rant on software quality and the language quagmire we're in with weak (C++/Java) or missing (JS/Python) type systems. To throw a statement out there without substantiation, and then cowardly running away, I'll say that Haskell feels as easy as Python, where in Python you have to do a little thinking about what types of objects get passed where, often while debugging, in Haskell you have to figure out the types of data/functions while compiling. The result, I feel, is about the same amount of work. The difference is that the Haskell result is substantially, /substantially/ easier to use in larger projects. Again, that's without substantiation, and with me immediately running away in cowardice!

ixmatus 13y ago
Haskell is definitely not as "easy" as Python but I actually think it's more straight forward than Python is. There's more cognitive work up-front but the pay off is very big in terms of stability, maintainability, etc... in the long run. I actually think it costs less in amount of work to do something in Haskell than in Python (and Erlang, even). When I have to drop into Python or Javascript I feel like I'm pulling out my MiniTonka toys vs. the actual dump truck out back by the barn. When I went from PHP to Python it felt like that too. As it stands though, I write systems critical services in HS now and keep the web app stuff in Python. I have written two production web apps in Snap and I loved every minute of it.