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Wow. He is getting demolished there.

by mwilcox 13y ago

Aoyagi 13y ago
Can't say I'm surprised. Mentioning "Facebook" and "open" twice.... champions even!
- deleted 13y ago
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joeblau 13y ago
The comments on that reddit are insanely hilarious; The hatred is palpable.
- trobertson 13y ago
  Yesterday, they loved the guy. Say what you will about the deal, but Facebook has generated a lot of negativity in a lot of people. Not only did the Kickstarted future of VR sell out, they sold to Facebook. That subreddit has interpreted it as follows: The dream is real, take my money! (during Kickstarter) Shatter the dream. Take a dump on the scattered pieces. They are not happy.
  - jamesaguilar 13y ago
    I don't know how anyone can be mad. I mean. I understand why they think they should be mad. But it is not like Palmer lucky is not going to deliver on the promise. He's just doing it under a different corporate structure.
  - 72deluxe 13y ago
    "Take a dump on the scattered pieces" Why would defecating on shards of broken dream damage them further? You could just wash them and glue them together again. Imagine all the egg on Humpty Dumpty when he fell. Perhaps they couldn't glue him together again due to the egg residue. EDIT: Somebody downvoted me. I don't know why. I felt for Humpty Dumpty.
- selimthegrim 13y ago
  Here's an excellent visual summary: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTKhOvBNakM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTKhOvBNakM
- Loughla 13y ago
  It has been a laugh to be honest. I asked a friend of mine, who had very recently pre-ordered his second kit, last night if we was excited for the ability to poke people in virtual space. . . . Made me giggle. Seriously, though. The hatred is very plain, and very understandable. The reason people loved the Oculus is because they felt they had some control over its future. They felt a part of it from the beginning, and were excited to be able to say that they were there to help. Now, though, it appears from the outside that they were used to front-fund a giant acquisition to make a very few people very, very wealthy. So, essentially, those that I've spoken to are pissed less that it's Facebook, and more that it's any company at all. (It just happens to be Facebook, which is seen as the devil by 20-35 year olds)
marvin 13y ago
No joke. I hope he's thick-skinned, this kind of verbal abuse from hundreds of disappointed techies would at least leave me feeling very exposed.
- chillingeffect 13y ago
  hell, you think us neck-beards are taking it hard? The tweens on /v/ are threatening suicide and asking each other "where were you when video gaming died?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgmyw0yqPPE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgmyw0yqPPE This is it /v/. I'm killing myself. No, I'm not an attention whore, I will be killing myself now. Facebook fucking ruined everything. Everything I was looking forward to in life is now gone because of corporate greed. We will never have real VR gaming and waifu games. We will never, NEVER FUCKING HAVE IT. Our fucking DREAMS were taken away from us. There is no point in living. This will get 404 because of mods but I'm sure one of you will see this. I hope this will make some people actually fight against Facebook. I won't be around to see if it will.
  - ZenoArrow 13y ago
    Wait, don't kill yourself, we can fix this. The release of Oculus will result in a halo effect around VR-quality hardware in the electronics market. This will make it much easier to create OpenVR (open hardware, no corporate control). Oculus have dropped the ball, but we can still fulfil the vision you dream of. Wouldn't it be better to turn your frustration into a creative force?
    - chillingeffect 13y ago
      Just to clarify, I was quoting a message board. I'm not personally intending to do anything ridiculous like that... especially not over a VR helmet. I have seen waves of VR come and go. I'm not under the impression that Oculus Rift is much better than others. IMO, the dreams of VR were not about helmets, but about 3-d graphics. 3d is here now and it's having its effect. Helmets are a niche product. I think Jeri Ellsworth's CastAR will be stronger product.
archagon 13y ago
Yikes. "Fuck you, Palmer." What the fuck? Folks, this is why creators on the internet have public meltdowns and abandon their communities and/or projects. (See: Phil Fish, TotalBiscuit, and many others.) Simply despicable how these so-called "fans", who have no idea how to run a multi-million-dollar business, can turn on a dime and start slinging vitriol at the person they claimed to idolize just a day earlier. How about, you know, giving the fucking guy the benefit of the doubt? You know, just for a bit, instead of tearing his fucking throat out? The older I grow, the more I feel that people need "internet cards" that can be forcibly revoked until they at least develop a base amount of empathy.
- sillysaurus3 13y ago
  May I ask, what happened with TotalBiscuit?
  - archagon 13y ago
    In his own words: http://www.reddit.com/r/Cynicalbrit/comments/1xrx27/in_light_of_tb_abandonning_his_own_subreddit/cfe3rgc http://www.reddit.com/r/Cynicalbrit/comments/1xrx27/in_light... boogie2988's response is worth watching: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvSXgBmu2Pc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvSXgBmu2Pc Nerd³ weighs in with his own experiences: http://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/1xs45h/realtotalbiscuit_total_biscuit_of_youtube_fame/cfeacv1 http://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/1xs45h/realtotalbisc...
    - sillysaurus3 13y ago
      Wow. I wish I could give you ten upvotes for raising awareness about this. This is probably worth submitting to HN directly (go for it) because it's both newsworthy in gamedev circles and will help people in a similar situation come up with ideas to cope with the stress. Thank you!
    - Matrixik 13y ago
      http://theoatmeal.com/comics/making_things http://theoatmeal.com/comics/making_things

Wow. He is getting demolished there.

by mwilcox 13y ago

Wow. He is getting demolished there.

Aoyagi 13y ago

Can't say I'm surprised. Mentioning "Facebook" and "open" twice.... champions even!

deleted 13y ago
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joeblau 13y ago

The comments on that reddit are insanely hilarious; The hatred is palpable.

trobertson 13y ago
Yesterday, they loved the guy. Say what you will about the deal, but Facebook has generated a lot of negativity in a lot of people. Not only did the Kickstarted future of VR sell out, they sold to Facebook. That subreddit has interpreted it as follows: The dream is real, take my money! (during Kickstarter) Shatter the dream. Take a dump on the scattered pieces. They are not happy.
- jamesaguilar 13y ago
  I don't know how anyone can be mad. I mean. I understand why they think they should be mad. But it is not like Palmer lucky is not going to deliver on the promise. He's just doing it under a different corporate structure.
- 72deluxe 13y ago
  "Take a dump on the scattered pieces" Why would defecating on shards of broken dream damage them further? You could just wash them and glue them together again. Imagine all the egg on Humpty Dumpty when he fell. Perhaps they couldn't glue him together again due to the egg residue. EDIT: Somebody downvoted me. I don't know why. I felt for Humpty Dumpty.
selimthegrim 13y ago
Here's an excellent visual summary: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTKhOvBNakM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTKhOvBNakM
Loughla 13y ago
It has been a laugh to be honest. I asked a friend of mine, who had very recently pre-ordered his second kit, last night if we was excited for the ability to poke people in virtual space. . . . Made me giggle. Seriously, though. The hatred is very plain, and very understandable. The reason people loved the Oculus is because they felt they had some control over its future. They felt a part of it from the beginning, and were excited to be able to say that they were there to help. Now, though, it appears from the outside that they were used to front-fund a giant acquisition to make a very few people very, very wealthy. So, essentially, those that I've spoken to are pissed less that it's Facebook, and more that it's any company at all. (It just happens to be Facebook, which is seen as the devil by 20-35 year olds)

marvin 13y ago

No joke. I hope he's thick-skinned, this kind of verbal abuse from hundreds of disappointed techies would at least leave me feeling very exposed.

chillingeffect 13y ago
hell, you think us neck-beards are taking it hard? The tweens on /v/ are threatening suicide and asking each other "where were you when video gaming died?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgmyw0yqPPE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgmyw0yqPPE This is it /v/. I'm killing myself. No, I'm not an attention whore, I will be killing myself now. Facebook fucking ruined everything. Everything I was looking forward to in life is now gone because of corporate greed. We will never have real VR gaming and waifu games. We will never, NEVER FUCKING HAVE IT. Our fucking DREAMS were taken away from us. There is no point in living. This will get 404 because of mods but I'm sure one of you will see this. I hope this will make some people actually fight against Facebook. I won't be around to see if it will.
- ZenoArrow 13y ago
  Wait, don't kill yourself, we can fix this. The release of Oculus will result in a halo effect around VR-quality hardware in the electronics market. This will make it much easier to create OpenVR (open hardware, no corporate control). Oculus have dropped the ball, but we can still fulfil the vision you dream of. Wouldn't it be better to turn your frustration into a creative force?
  - chillingeffect 13y ago
    Just to clarify, I was quoting a message board. I'm not personally intending to do anything ridiculous like that... especially not over a VR helmet. I have seen waves of VR come and go. I'm not under the impression that Oculus Rift is much better than others. IMO, the dreams of VR were not about helmets, but about 3-d graphics. 3d is here now and it's having its effect. Helmets are a niche product. I think Jeri Ellsworth's CastAR will be stronger product.

archagon 13y ago

Yikes. "Fuck you, Palmer." What the fuck? Folks, this is why creators on the internet have public meltdowns and abandon their communities and/or projects. (See: Phil Fish, TotalBiscuit, and many others.) Simply despicable how these so-called "fans", who have no idea how to run a multi-million-dollar business, can turn on a dime and start slinging vitriol at the person they claimed to idolize just a day earlier. How about, you know, giving the fucking guy the benefit of the doubt? You know, just for a bit, instead of tearing his fucking throat out? The older I grow, the more I feel that people need "internet cards" that can be forcibly revoked until they at least develop a base amount of empathy.

sillysaurus3 13y ago
May I ask, what happened with TotalBiscuit?
- archagon 13y ago
  In his own words: http://www.reddit.com/r/Cynicalbrit/comments/1xrx27/in_light_of_tb_abandonning_his_own_subreddit/cfe3rgc http://www.reddit.com/r/Cynicalbrit/comments/1xrx27/in_light... boogie2988's response is worth watching: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvSXgBmu2Pc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvSXgBmu2Pc Nerd³ weighs in with his own experiences: http://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/1xs45h/realtotalbiscuit_total_biscuit_of_youtube_fame/cfeacv1 http://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/1xs45h/realtotalbisc...
  - sillysaurus3 13y ago
    Wow. I wish I could give you ten upvotes for raising awareness about this. This is probably worth submitting to HN directly (go for it) because it's both newsworthy in gamedev circles and will help people in a similar situation come up with ideas to cope with the stress. Thank you!
  - Matrixik 13y ago
    http://theoatmeal.com/comics/making_things http://theoatmeal.com/comics/making_things