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This self agrandizing is vomit inducing... Why in order to elevate your own community do you feel a need to assert vague stereotypes about some huge blob of dev

by arel 13y ago

This self agrandizing is vomit inducing... Why in order to elevate your own community do you feel a need to assert vague stereotypes about some huge blob of developers that it sounds like you know very little about. All the Java programmers in my 10 years in various companies are in general fantastic and have no intention of climbing the management ladder after 2 (count em!) years in!

stfujavamonkey 13y ago
> I have never encountered any shitty Java programmers, so they must be pretty good as a community. > I don't think they have any intention of climbing the management ladder because they didn't after two years > I, arel, am in a good position to judge the quality of my previous coworkes, and they have all been fantastic! Well, 'arel', first of all thank you for your useful contribution to hacker news. Second of all, if in all of your 10 years in various companies (you also sound like you have been doing Java only, so this applies doubly so) you have never maintained any shitty Java code from a shitty Java programmer, well, you must either have been very lucky, or you must be one of them, don't you?
- arel 13y ago
  Thank you for yours... most eloquent. Some background just for you my friend: I've seriously programmed in (in order) C, C++, assembly, Java, Ruby and Python... and many other languages in between. I've had to maintain, fix, performance optimise, make sense of badly written code in C, C++, assembly, Java, Ruby and Python. Stop looking to demonise one set of developers and you will see that poorly written code and stupidity is everywhere, I can certainly see that. Also thank you for creating an account just to reply to me. I'm honoured.
- _xczx 13y ago
  Although it should be obvious, this extreme attitude is not shared by many programmers. I'll also mention that I've found Clojure programmers to be as friendly as any in irc and on the google groups.
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by arel 13y ago

stfujavamonkey 13y ago

> I have never encountered any shitty Java programmers, so they must be pretty good as a community. > I don't think they have any intention of climbing the management ladder because they didn't after two years > I, arel, am in a good position to judge the quality of my previous coworkes, and they have all been fantastic! Well, 'arel', first of all thank you for your useful contribution to hacker news. Second of all, if in all of your 10 years in various companies (you also sound like you have been doing Java only, so this applies doubly so) you have never maintained any shitty Java code from a shitty Java programmer, well, you must either have been very lucky, or you must be one of them, don't you?

arel 13y ago
Thank you for yours... most eloquent. Some background just for you my friend: I've seriously programmed in (in order) C, C++, assembly, Java, Ruby and Python... and many other languages in between. I've had to maintain, fix, performance optimise, make sense of badly written code in C, C++, assembly, Java, Ruby and Python. Stop looking to demonise one set of developers and you will see that poorly written code and stupidity is everywhere, I can certainly see that. Also thank you for creating an account just to reply to me. I'm honoured.
_xczx 13y ago
Although it should be obvious, this extreme attitude is not shared by many programmers. I'll also mention that I've found Clojure programmers to be as friendly as any in irc and on the google groups.
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