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Isn't Eich in favor of marriage privatization?

by debacle 13y ago

icebraining 13y ago
I'm in favour of abolishing State-granted marriages too. But that's no reason to support the abolishment of gay marriage, since it will do nothing for the cause, just maintain an inequality of rights.
- yummyfajitas 13y ago
  As long as married != single, we have an inequality of rights. The only question is whether gays get to join the favored class. As one of the single people that gay activists are willing to throw under the bus as long as they get what they want, I don't see any reason to support them.
  - ossreality 13y ago
    >As one of the single people that gay activists are willing to throw under the bus as long as they get what they want, ahahahahhahaha what the fuck does that even mean?
  - humanrebar 13y ago
    Marriage will never be the same as being single. Otherwise there would be no purpose to being married. If everything were the same, the term "single mother" wouldn't carry an special meaning.
    - icebraining 13y ago
      I think "equal before the State" is implied here. After all, gay couples can already perform marriage rituals and live together, what they lack is the recognition of the official institutions.
      - humanrebar 13y ago
        Regardless of what the state thinks, unplanned pregnancies are the domain of heterosexual partnerships. In monogamous homosexual marriages, children come about intentionally or not at all (exceptions here only prove the rule). Point being, the outcomes of straight marriages will inevitably include more children, so it's in the interest of the State to make sure sexually-active heterosexuals marry, marry well, and stay married. There may be other goals to consider, but I'm a bit surprised that biology and human nature haven't come up in this discussion yet, especially considering recent trends in the extramarital birth rate.
        debacle 13y ago
        You can't mention biology or human nature when it comes to the LGBT community. They're sort of...abstracted away, in the leaky sense.

Isn't Eich in favor of marriage privatization?

by debacle 13y ago

Isn't Eich in favor of marriage privatization?

I'm in favour of abolishing State-granted marriages too. But that's no reason to support the abolishment of gay marriage, since it will do nothing for the cause, just maintain an inequality of rights.

yummyfajitas 13y ago
As long as married != single, we have an inequality of rights. The only question is whether gays get to join the favored class. As one of the single people that gay activists are willing to throw under the bus as long as they get what they want, I don't see any reason to support them.
- ossreality 13y ago
  >As one of the single people that gay activists are willing to throw under the bus as long as they get what they want, ahahahahhahaha what the fuck does that even mean?
- humanrebar 13y ago
  Marriage will never be the same as being single. Otherwise there would be no purpose to being married. If everything were the same, the term "single mother" wouldn't carry an special meaning.
  - icebraining 13y ago
    I think "equal before the State" is implied here. After all, gay couples can already perform marriage rituals and live together, what they lack is the recognition of the official institutions.
    - humanrebar 13y ago
      Regardless of what the state thinks, unplanned pregnancies are the domain of heterosexual partnerships. In monogamous homosexual marriages, children come about intentionally or not at all (exceptions here only prove the rule). Point being, the outcomes of straight marriages will inevitably include more children, so it's in the interest of the State to make sure sexually-active heterosexuals marry, marry well, and stay married. There may be other goals to consider, but I'm a bit surprised that biology and human nature haven't come up in this discussion yet, especially considering recent trends in the extramarital birth rate.
      - debacle 13y ago
        You can't mention biology or human nature when it comes to the LGBT community. They're sort of...abstracted away, in the leaky sense.