> I don't expect people living in a world where criminals can be "cured" will condemn our use of prisons either, because we can't "cure" criminals yet! Sure, b

> I don't expect people living in a world where criminals can be "cured" will condemn our use of prisons either, because we can't "cure" criminals yet! Sure, but there are prisons and prisons: based on what I saw, I would very much prefer to be in a prison in Sweden than in the US or in France (to select rich countries where prison SHOULD be better).