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French entrepreneur here. It's called "communication channel overflow": When I used normal channels like talking to my "deputee for French people living abroad
by aragot 13y ago
French entrepreneur here.
It's called "communication channel overflow": When I used normal channels like talking to my "deputee for French people living abroad", I got rejected based on the tone. I feel like other channels would be the same: We don't get heard, never, unless we strike or do mass demonstrations.
So I overflow my criticism to HN. When they have enough negative feedback, a report will land on Hollande's desk and they'll decide what to fix.
That said, I still think the "autoentrepreneur" status in France is unbeatable to start a business.
Edit: reworded.
- ekianjo 13y ago> But I still think the "autoentrepreneur" status in France is unbeatable to start a business. TO start a business a single owner, yes, but once it grows, you need to leave, basically, or face tax-death.
- aragot 13y agoRight, I once calculated the tax and social payments (incl. retirement, health care and tax agent) for a 75k€ business without employee, and it was ~53k€. You can't get rich in France. We hate rich people anyway, you'd be subjected to all kinds of verbal violence.
- ekianjo 13y agoOh I know, I am French myself and decided to live abroad long ago because of that particular attitude towards "les patrons" . It's like a reminiscent lutte des classes from Communist Russia or something. No wonder so many young people leave the country.
- kybernetyk 13y agoFor comparison I just calculated the same for Germany and Poland (1 person business, income tax, "gewerbe" tax for Germany, health care, no tax agent, no retirement for Germany): In Germany on 75,000 EUR profits you have to pay ~30,400 EUR and get to keep ~44,600 EUR. Total taxation rate at this level is ~40.5%. At 1,000,000 EUR profits you get taxed ~49.5% and have to pay ~494,000 EUR taxes. If you moved a few hundred km to the east to Poland which has an opt-in 19% flat tax rate you would pay only ~15,000 EUR on 75,000 EUR profits and ~192,000 EUR on 1,000,000 EUR profits. So France seems to be "worse" than Germany tax-wise. Something I wouldn't have expected.
- ekianjo 13y agoYou should check out Belgium for fun :) If I remember correctly it's a little worse than France, or about the same...
- camus2 13y agoYour right, that's why i'm moving abroad too,though i dont know where yet.