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> Socially, excluding Android users seems almost prejudicial. Unlike Android is difficult, this isn’t about about mere convenience; it’s a value judgment on who
by wisty 13y ago
> Socially, excluding Android users seems almost prejudicial. Unlike Android is difficult, this isn’t about about mere convenience; it’s a value judgment on who is worth designing for. Put uncharitably, the root issue is “Android users are poor”.
How about "Android users want a phone, not apps". If you want a phone, you get an Android. If you want apps, you get an iPhone.
Look at the stats for web use. In 2012, there was more Android Webkit use of cellular (more users?), but far more Mobile Safari if you included WiFi. An iPhone / iPad is used as a computer, Android is a phone and mobile browser (for when you can't use a real computer).
- szatkus 13y agoNo, Android user wants apps. iPhone is just expensive as hell. Android is much cheaper alternative. People who want "just phone with browser" usually buy Nokia Asha or feature phone.
- gmac 13y agoAnd your evidence is ... ? It seems to me there are more than enough cheap and crappy Android handsets out there to serve the feature-phone market too.
- szatkus 13y agoThe cheapest Android phone I found costs 50 euro. You can easily find feature phone for 15-20 euro.
- rsynnott 13y agoDepends where you live. In Ireland, for instance, if you walk into a shop wanting a prepaid phone, you're pretty much getting an Android, with most telecoms. Three, for instance (generally the cheapest major telco), currently lists precisely one non-Android phone in its under-100 euro category, and it's not a feature phone, it's a Symbian smartphone. The rest of its cheap phones are Android, mostly 2.3 and 4.0/4.1. You could buy a feature phone separately and bring it to the telecom, of course, but normal consumers don't do that.
- redacted 13y agoThree, and every other telco, has a vested interest in getting you to buy something that they can sell you data for [1]. Argos will sell you an unlocked Samsung phone for 19 euro, Nokia for 25. [1] of course, Three doesn't let you use that data because their network is a joke, but that's another story from the annals of "Ireland may be wealthy, but our infrastructure sucks so hard CERN has a contender for accidentally opening black holes in atmosphere"
- dagw 13y agoA touchscreen Nokia Asha or other feature phone is not actually cheaper than an Android phone and very few shops carry them. You have to be quite into phones to even know they exists and have any reason why you'd want one. If a person who wants a cheap phone with a browser walks into a shop and asks for a cheap phone with a browser, they'll be walking out with a low end Android phone.
- rsynnott 13y agoReally, even if they just ask for a cheap phone; at least in Europe, many telecoms don't sell consumer feature phones anymore _at all_.
- Oletros 13y ago> Look at the stats for web use. In 2012, there was more Android Webkit use of cellular (more users?), but far more Mobile Safari if you included WiFi. Web use is not the same that app use.