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You were duped. > We, as programmers, are ridiculously overpaid already. How could anyone possibly be "taking advantage" of us at these salaries? Overpaid by

You were duped. > We, as programmers, are ridiculously overpaid already. How could anyone possibly be "taking advantage" of us at these salaries? Overpaid by what metric? Compared to society at large, you make a lot money, yes, but you're also contributing significantly to one of the most profitable companies in the world. Google has a profit of about a million dollars per employee per year; why aren't you capturing more of that? [1] If you're not taking that money home, someone else is. What do you bet those people are the ones telling you this is all in the name of civility? [1] E.g. https://signalvnoise.com/posts/2283-ranking-tech-companies-by-revenue-per-employee https://signalvnoise.com/posts/2283-ranking-tech-companies-b... I confess I don't know the numbers for 2005, but it should be easy to look up.

usaar333 13y ago
> Google has a profit of about a million dollars per employee per year Revenue, not profit. Profit is closer to $250k
- icambron 13y ago
  You're right that my source was the wrong thing for that (I wasn't careful enough in my quick search). But profit per employee per year is much closer to a million than 250K. Here's the source I should have used :http://csimarket.com/stocks/singleEfficiencyeit.php?code=GOOG http://csimarket.com/stocks/singleEfficiencyeit.php?code=GOO... Note the numbers are quarterly, so that comes out to $900K. I was off a bit, so point taken, but my original point mostly stands, I think.
  - usaar333 13y ago
    Where is that source getting data? Using Google finance: https://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ%3AGOOG&fstype=ii&ei=e3AwU7DDDonfiAKD1gE https://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ%3AGOOG&fstype=ii&ei=... Google made almost $13B in net income last year. They had 47,000 employees in Dec '13. That's about $275k/employee in net income.
    - icambron 13y ago
      Hmm, yeah. Maybe they erroneously used gross profit (which is useless here). I cede the point.
- nyrina 13y ago
  That's still insane money per employee, and as far as I understand it, then most of their money making is coming from ads. I would love to know how much they make per employee from that department alone...
- eli_gottlieb 13y ago
  A profit of $250k/employee-year is still easily enough to double or more than double a lot of people's salaries.

usaar333 13y ago

> Google has a profit of about a million dollars per employee per year Revenue, not profit. Profit is closer to $250k

icambron 13y ago
You're right that my source was the wrong thing for that (I wasn't careful enough in my quick search). But profit per employee per year is much closer to a million than 250K. Here's the source I should have used :http://csimarket.com/stocks/singleEfficiencyeit.php?code=GOOG http://csimarket.com/stocks/singleEfficiencyeit.php?code=GOO... Note the numbers are quarterly, so that comes out to $900K. I was off a bit, so point taken, but my original point mostly stands, I think.
- usaar333 13y ago
  Where is that source getting data? Using Google finance: https://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ%3AGOOG&fstype=ii&ei=e3AwU7DDDonfiAKD1gE https://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ%3AGOOG&fstype=ii&ei=... Google made almost $13B in net income last year. They had 47,000 employees in Dec '13. That's about $275k/employee in net income.
  - icambron 13y ago
    Hmm, yeah. Maybe they erroneously used gross profit (which is useless here). I cede the point.
nyrina 13y ago
That's still insane money per employee, and as far as I understand it, then most of their money making is coming from ads. I would love to know how much they make per employee from that department alone...
eli_gottlieb 13y ago
A profit of $250k/employee-year is still easily enough to double or more than double a lot of people's salaries.