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I'm not sure where you got the "I don't understand this" and the "This is dumb" interpretations from. It's pretty clear that neither of those are expressed in t

by Pacabel 13y ago

I'm not sure where you got the "I don't understand this" and the "This is dumb" interpretations from. It's pretty clear that neither of those are expressed in that comment. There's one coherent idea that is expressed, and it could perhaps be summed up as, "This idea is not particularly innovative or special in any way." This is really no different from ordering pizza. I mean, the ingredients even overlap to some extent, although most pizza vendors will also offer drinks, sandwiches, chicken, and other dishes these days. And basically every pizza vendor will deliver to your door. Many of the larger pizza chains have at least some presence over very large areas, so you can get the same predictable meal even when in distance cities or towns. And these days, most of these chains offer various ways of ordering, from in person to over the phone to websites to mobile apps. Sure, it takes some skill to get such an operation up and running, but the idea itself isn't new by any means. And there really isn't anything special about it. It's just a very, very slight twist (perhaps even just a simplification) of a well-established type of business.

wpietri 13y ago
This is what I got "I don't understand" from: "I guess I'm just at a loss as to what is even remotely 'hacker'-ish about this." The overall tone of contempt is what I got "this is dumb" from. If this is just a very, very slight twist on a business that has existed for decades you might ask yourself why it's only happening now. It could be that it's not workable. It could be that nobody ever thought of it. Or it could be that you're missing something, that you have also confused "I see nothing here" with "there is nothing here".
- Pacabel 13y ago
  He clearly understands the concept. What isn't understandable is why it's here at HN, why it's within the top 10 front page submissions, and why some people claim to think this idea is innovative or special. It's really nothing more than pizza delivery. I don't think he thinks it's a "dumb" idea, either. Clearly it's at least somewhat viable, given that pizza delivery is well and alive, with many establishments being around for many years, if not decades. But that's really what it boils down to: this is just a very limited form of the well-established, long-running practice of pizza delivery. Pizza is, after all, just freshly-baked bread delivered to one's door, but with the benefit of various toppings. It's really absurd to see you talking about "why it's only happening now" or that "nobody ever thought of it", especially when we've been ordering pizza and having it delivered to our door in well under an hour for many, many, many years now. This is an old idea, plain and simple.
  - ballard 13y ago
    Talking to someone in the baked goods manufacturing business might save a whole lot of pain. Some markets aren't occupied for a reason and others just haven't been explored. But if it's at all successful, they're gonna get slaughtered by incumbents unless they defend a niche or offer a more compelling "why we make bread" story. (Also the bread kind, not just the green.)
  - mbesto 13y ago
    > What isn't understandable is why it's here at HN, why it's within the top 10 front page submissions It's not your sole place to decide this. That's why there is a community here. PS - I know how you feel, I've had the same reactions before and the best thing to do is flag it and move on.

by Pacabel 13y ago

wpietri 13y ago

This is what I got "I don't understand" from: "I guess I'm just at a loss as to what is even remotely 'hacker'-ish about this." The overall tone of contempt is what I got "this is dumb" from. If this is just a very, very slight twist on a business that has existed for decades you might ask yourself why it's only happening now. It could be that it's not workable. It could be that nobody ever thought of it. Or it could be that you're missing something, that you have also confused "I see nothing here" with "there is nothing here".

Pacabel 13y ago
He clearly understands the concept. What isn't understandable is why it's here at HN, why it's within the top 10 front page submissions, and why some people claim to think this idea is innovative or special. It's really nothing more than pizza delivery. I don't think he thinks it's a "dumb" idea, either. Clearly it's at least somewhat viable, given that pizza delivery is well and alive, with many establishments being around for many years, if not decades. But that's really what it boils down to: this is just a very limited form of the well-established, long-running practice of pizza delivery. Pizza is, after all, just freshly-baked bread delivered to one's door, but with the benefit of various toppings. It's really absurd to see you talking about "why it's only happening now" or that "nobody ever thought of it", especially when we've been ordering pizza and having it delivered to our door in well under an hour for many, many, many years now. This is an old idea, plain and simple.
- ballard 13y ago
  Talking to someone in the baked goods manufacturing business might save a whole lot of pain. Some markets aren't occupied for a reason and others just haven't been explored. But if it's at all successful, they're gonna get slaughtered by incumbents unless they defend a niche or offer a more compelling "why we make bread" story. (Also the bread kind, not just the green.)
- mbesto 13y ago
  > What isn't understandable is why it's here at HN, why it's within the top 10 front page submissions It's not your sole place to decide this. That's why there is a community here. PS - I know how you feel, I've had the same reactions before and the best thing to do is flag it and move on.