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Wasn't there also a part to not sue for code from Quicktime ending up in Windows? Which would have netted a large sum in court. (As far as I can remember, Appl

by berntb 17y ago

Wasn't there also a part to not sue for code from Quicktime ending up in Windows? Which would have netted a large sum in court. (As far as I can remember, Apple had some third company port Quicktime and after Microsoft saw that, they asked the company to make "Video for Windows" to not look like "Slides for Windows".) Edit: (Some syntax fixes.) According to this page, the Quicktime deal was the most important part. That fits with my memory. The article is a bad hack job. (The page also mentions that Microsoft tried to extort Apple to not support video playback on Windows.) http://www.technstuff.com/windows/history-of-quicktime-did-you-know-apple-negotiated-with-microsoft-to-end-a-lawsuit/ http://www.technstuff.com/windows/history-of-quicktime-did-y... "Steve Jobs brokered a deal with Microsoft that dropped the QuickTime code theft case in exchange for a visible partnership that made Microsoft an investor in Apple and ensured regular new releases of Office for Mac."

mmphosis 17y ago
I remember Microsoft being given rights to use many of Apple's software innovations in this exchange: Quicktime on Windows, Apple True Type fonts for Windows, and the ability to span the display across multiple monitors was introduced in Windows 98.
TomOfTTB 17y ago
This has always struck me as Apple-Fanboy revisionism (and this coming from a guy with an iPhone and a Macbook). For this to be true it would have meant Apple had the upper hand in the negotiation and I just don't see that. Apple gave up too much (and had to look submissive doing it which had to sting Jobs) and Microsoft gave up virtually nothing (a relatively small amount of money and a promise to continue developing a product that was hugely profitable for them) Also, the Microsoft exec who supposedly gave testimony proving this theory didn't do that at all and in fact continues to deny the suit had merit (even though he no longer works there). That's all chronicled in this book: http://www.amazon.com/Renegades-Empire-Software-Revolution-Microsoft/dp/product-description/0609807455 http://www.amazon.com/Renegades-Empire-Software-Revolution-M...
- berntb 17y ago
  Well, I would be surprised if that embarrassing circumstance wasn't denied, disregarding if it was true or not! If the code didn't ship in Windows, it would have been easy to verify. I didn't see anything in the media about it then, which would have been the time to deny it. But you know how it is, big advertisers never get a fair treatment in the media. :-) Edit: re "giving up too much"... Apple had its back against the wall at the time.
- zmonkeyz 17y ago
  I didn't see them as giving up too much at the time. In the end they were able to buy some time to release some great products and still have a great Mac Business Unit producing Office.

by berntb 17y ago

mmphosis 17y ago

I remember Microsoft being given rights to use many of Apple's software innovations in this exchange: Quicktime on Windows, Apple True Type fonts for Windows, and the ability to span the display across multiple monitors was introduced in Windows 98.

TomOfTTB 17y ago

This has always struck me as Apple-Fanboy revisionism (and this coming from a guy with an iPhone and a Macbook). For this to be true it would have meant Apple had the upper hand in the negotiation and I just don't see that. Apple gave up too much (and had to look submissive doing it which had to sting Jobs) and Microsoft gave up virtually nothing (a relatively small amount of money and a promise to continue developing a product that was hugely profitable for them) Also, the Microsoft exec who supposedly gave testimony proving this theory didn't do that at all and in fact continues to deny the suit had merit (even though he no longer works there). That's all chronicled in this book: http://www.amazon.com/Renegades-Empire-Software-Revolution-Microsoft/dp/product-description/0609807455 http://www.amazon.com/Renegades-Empire-Software-Revolution-M...

berntb 17y ago
Well, I would be surprised if that embarrassing circumstance wasn't denied, disregarding if it was true or not! If the code didn't ship in Windows, it would have been easy to verify. I didn't see anything in the media about it then, which would have been the time to deny it. But you know how it is, big advertisers never get a fair treatment in the media. :-) Edit: re "giving up too much"... Apple had its back against the wall at the time.
zmonkeyz 17y ago
I didn't see them as giving up too much at the time. In the end they were able to buy some time to release some great products and still have a great Mac Business Unit producing Office.