Oh man, I wish I'd had the presence of mind to do that. Instead, after we got off the phone, I went ahead and wrote enough of the disassembler to have a good p

Oh man, I wish I'd had the presence of mind to do that. Instead, after we got off the phone, I went ahead and wrote enough of the disassembler to have a good proof of concept. Then, since the phone call with Steve hadn't gone so well, I decided to go show him the code in person. I looked up the address of Apple Computer - 770 Welch Road in Palo Alto - and dropped in to show Steve the code. When I walked in I didn't see anything computer-related, just a row of telephone switchboards. I told the nearest operator that I was looking for Apple Computer. She hesitated a bit and said "uh, this is their answering service." So I walked out and told myself, "Those guys are flakes. They're never going to make it." I think I like your idea better! :-) edit: I just remembered a strange coincidence. I was reading Michael Moritz's Return to the Little Kingdom last year and ran across this: > At first there was great uncertainty at the Regis McKenna Agency about Apple’s prospects. The account executive, Frank Burge, explained, “People who knew Markkula and Apple wondered whether they would make it. We kept saying ‘These guys are flakes. They’re never going to make it.’”