> But we have no idea where intelligence originates. It seems to me we don't even have a good definition of intelligence, never mind an understanding of it. Yo

> But we have no idea where intelligence originates. It seems to me we don't even have a good definition of intelligence, never mind an understanding of it. You admit it yourself, so why the diatribe on how (not even why) "real artificial intelligence" is impossible? You haven't defined what AI is nor demonstrated why it will never happen.