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I couldn't agree more. Weev is in no way, shape, or form a good guy. He's a horrific asshole, and the world is better with him locked up. Sadly he's locked u

I couldn't agree more. Weev is in no way, shape, or form a good guy. He's a horrific asshole, and the world is better with him locked up. Sadly he's locked up for the wrong reason. But he really is a stain on humanity.

vezzy-fnord 13y ago
As abhorrent as his personality may be, there is no reason to lock him up. Prison is not a place to just put in everyone you find disagreeable, although most governments would likely insist against that.
- Consultant32452 13y ago
  Actually, prison is exactly the type of place we invented for the sole purpose of putting people we find disagreeable. We create laws to attempt to define disagreeable behavior and intentionally keep them vague enough that if someone gets out of line we can lock them up.
  - agwa 13y ago
    > and intentionally keep them vague enough that if someone gets out of line we can lock them up. (Is this a joke? I honestly can't tell.) That may be what you'd expect in a despotic regime, but in a free country (which is what the US aspires to be), laws cannot be vague, and vagueness is grounds for a law to be found unconstitutional on its face. Individuals must have adequate notice as to what conduct constitutes a crime and what doesn't. Otherwise it's impossible to know if what you're doing is legal or not, and you can find yourself thrown in prison just for being unpopular.
    - Consultant32452 13y ago
      Our prisons are primarily filled with unpopular people. We tend to refer to them as minorities. Some specific examples off the top of my head of intentionally vague law is when there's purely subjective decisions as to whether a crime is just a "regular" crime or a "hate crime." There also seems to be a lot of ambiguity around what exactly constitutes copyright infringement or the legal vs illegal varieties of hacking.
      - agwa 13y ago
        Agreed, our prisons are full of unpopular people (though that's kind of circular, because being in prison makes you unpopular). Good point about minorities, though that's largely because of uneven enforcement of laws (e.g. blacks tend to receive harsher sentences, and are more likely to be busted for minor drug use) and arbitrary laws that are more likely to affect them (e.g. crack cocaine being treated way more harshly than powder cocain). It's not because the laws are vague (not to imply that that makes this acceptable) since vagueness is way for a law to be struck down. For example, vagueness is one of the primary arguments being made in Weev's case against the CFAA. (Don't know enough about hate crimes to comment, and copyright infringement is mainly a civil, not criminal, matter.)
- metatalk 13y ago
  He does his best to ruin people's lives and to destroy their spirits for fun. he's not just disagreeable, he's a shitty human being who is exactly where he belongs. He's just there for the wrong reasons. I hope he grows up and changes, but all currently available evidence is that he'll never grow up. So fuck him. And fuck people like you who mischaracterize his malicious campaigns as merely being 'disagreeable'. I hope that he targets the people you love next time he gets out. Then maybe you'll realize what an utterly worthless sack of shit you're supporting.
  - vezzy-fnord 13y ago
    I hope that he targets the people you love next time he gets out. Then maybe you'll realize what an utterly worthless sack of shit you're supporting. Clearly you're not clouded by emotion in any way. I've been systemically targeted by trolls years ago, I have some experiences. Not as extreme as what weev may have done, but then again I didn't post much personally identifiable information. Can't say it's something to throw people in jail over, though it depends on severity, certainly.
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    - metatalk 13y ago
      Clearly you're not clouded by emotion in any way. No. I think you're an emotionless, unempathic member of a majority group who never really felt like your career, family, or friendships were in serious jeopardy. I sincerely doubt that you understand what it's like to see a loved one get psychologically attacked from multiple angles by a sociopathic piece of shit who thinks it's fun to break other people. In a perfect world, weev would reform. In this world, I hope that he chooses you and your loved ones as his next target. After all, if you're going to lobby for an evil bastard to be part of society, it would be best if the negative influence was limited to you. Sadly, the worthless sack of shit that is weev will get out. And shitstains like you will support it. Because you know that he attacks people who don't look like you, and because you really don't care that he does so.

vezzy-fnord 13y ago

As abhorrent as his personality may be, there is no reason to lock him up. Prison is not a place to just put in everyone you find disagreeable, although most governments would likely insist against that.

Consultant32452 13y ago
Actually, prison is exactly the type of place we invented for the sole purpose of putting people we find disagreeable. We create laws to attempt to define disagreeable behavior and intentionally keep them vague enough that if someone gets out of line we can lock them up.
- agwa 13y ago
  > and intentionally keep them vague enough that if someone gets out of line we can lock them up. (Is this a joke? I honestly can't tell.) That may be what you'd expect in a despotic regime, but in a free country (which is what the US aspires to be), laws cannot be vague, and vagueness is grounds for a law to be found unconstitutional on its face. Individuals must have adequate notice as to what conduct constitutes a crime and what doesn't. Otherwise it's impossible to know if what you're doing is legal or not, and you can find yourself thrown in prison just for being unpopular.
  - Consultant32452 13y ago
    Our prisons are primarily filled with unpopular people. We tend to refer to them as minorities. Some specific examples off the top of my head of intentionally vague law is when there's purely subjective decisions as to whether a crime is just a "regular" crime or a "hate crime." There also seems to be a lot of ambiguity around what exactly constitutes copyright infringement or the legal vs illegal varieties of hacking.
    - agwa 13y ago
      Agreed, our prisons are full of unpopular people (though that's kind of circular, because being in prison makes you unpopular). Good point about minorities, though that's largely because of uneven enforcement of laws (e.g. blacks tend to receive harsher sentences, and are more likely to be busted for minor drug use) and arbitrary laws that are more likely to affect them (e.g. crack cocaine being treated way more harshly than powder cocain). It's not because the laws are vague (not to imply that that makes this acceptable) since vagueness is way for a law to be struck down. For example, vagueness is one of the primary arguments being made in Weev's case against the CFAA. (Don't know enough about hate crimes to comment, and copyright infringement is mainly a civil, not criminal, matter.)
metatalk 13y ago
He does his best to ruin people's lives and to destroy their spirits for fun. he's not just disagreeable, he's a shitty human being who is exactly where he belongs. He's just there for the wrong reasons. I hope he grows up and changes, but all currently available evidence is that he'll never grow up. So fuck him. And fuck people like you who mischaracterize his malicious campaigns as merely being 'disagreeable'. I hope that he targets the people you love next time he gets out. Then maybe you'll realize what an utterly worthless sack of shit you're supporting.
- vezzy-fnord 13y ago
  I hope that he targets the people you love next time he gets out. Then maybe you'll realize what an utterly worthless sack of shit you're supporting. Clearly you're not clouded by emotion in any way. I've been systemically targeted by trolls years ago, I have some experiences. Not as extreme as what weev may have done, but then again I didn't post much personally identifiable information. Can't say it's something to throw people in jail over, though it depends on severity, certainly.
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  - metatalk 13y ago
    Clearly you're not clouded by emotion in any way. No. I think you're an emotionless, unempathic member of a majority group who never really felt like your career, family, or friendships were in serious jeopardy. I sincerely doubt that you understand what it's like to see a loved one get psychologically attacked from multiple angles by a sociopathic piece of shit who thinks it's fun to break other people. In a perfect world, weev would reform. In this world, I hope that he chooses you and your loved ones as his next target. After all, if you're going to lobby for an evil bastard to be part of society, it would be best if the negative influence was limited to you. Sadly, the worthless sack of shit that is weev will get out. And shitstains like you will support it. Because you know that he attacks people who don't look like you, and because you really don't care that he does so.