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Weev is not a good guy imo. I'm not even sure I prefer him outside of prison walls for some of his past actions (although of course the solitary stuff is outrag

Weev is not a good guy imo. I'm not even sure I prefer him outside of prison walls for some of his past actions (although of course the solitary stuff is outrageous). But: He really must be acquitted for the actions he is now in jail for. There is just no way this should ever be punishable. Otherwise it would set a very bad precedent for corporation bullying of people that uncover negligence when it comes to customer security.

wavefunction 13y ago
I agree that he should be acquitted for the "crimes" of which he finds himself incarcerated for, since they aren't crimes. However, weev also needs to stop being such an asshole about other things and being so proud of that.
gadders 13y ago
Agreed. There is no law against being a dick, which is his main offence.
watwut 13y ago
Criminal courts should not evaluate whether accused is good guy or a bad guy. The only possible exception is when the guy is found guilty and court is looking for sentence. Courts should evaluate whether the guy broke the law and whether the law is consistent with constitution. His trolling activities and personality should not play much role when determining guilt.
- gamblor956 13y ago
  Criminal courts aren't allowed to evaluate whether the defendant is good or bad. It's actually one of the basic federal rules of evidence. Character evidence is relevant and admissible only if the defense first makes the defendant's character a part of the defense. Courts should evaluate...whether the law is consistent with constitution. This seems to be a big misunderstanding in the tech world. Courts already do make sure laws are consistent with the Constitution; that is one of their primary jobs. But they primarily do this when the law is challenged--usually when it is first introduced or on its first application to a novel set of facts. The courts do not re-determine the constitutionality of a law every time a criminal case proceeds, and especially not when the constitutionality of the law has already been addressed in prior cases.
kybernetyk 13y ago
> I'm not even sure I prefer him outside of prison walls for some of his past actions I don't know what he did (heard his name for the first time today) but if it weren't crimes then he definitely should be 'outside of prison walls'. No matter how much you don't like him or how much his actions made you feel bad.
- DoubleMalt 13y ago
  I agree, of course. Some context about weev. (And of course regardless of my preferences he should be free unless convicted of a crime) http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/magazine/03trolls-t.html?pagewanted=all http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/magazine/03trolls-t.html?p...

wavefunction 13y ago

I agree that he should be acquitted for the "crimes" of which he finds himself incarcerated for, since they aren't crimes. However, weev also needs to stop being such an asshole about other things and being so proud of that.

gadders 13y ago

Agreed. There is no law against being a dick, which is his main offence.

watwut 13y ago

Criminal courts should not evaluate whether accused is good guy or a bad guy. The only possible exception is when the guy is found guilty and court is looking for sentence. Courts should evaluate whether the guy broke the law and whether the law is consistent with constitution. His trolling activities and personality should not play much role when determining guilt.

gamblor956 13y ago
Criminal courts aren't allowed to evaluate whether the defendant is good or bad. It's actually one of the basic federal rules of evidence. Character evidence is relevant and admissible only if the defense first makes the defendant's character a part of the defense. Courts should evaluate...whether the law is consistent with constitution. This seems to be a big misunderstanding in the tech world. Courts already do make sure laws are consistent with the Constitution; that is one of their primary jobs. But they primarily do this when the law is challenged--usually when it is first introduced or on its first application to a novel set of facts. The courts do not re-determine the constitutionality of a law every time a criminal case proceeds, and especially not when the constitutionality of the law has already been addressed in prior cases.

kybernetyk 13y ago

> I'm not even sure I prefer him outside of prison walls for some of his past actions I don't know what he did (heard his name for the first time today) but if it weren't crimes then he definitely should be 'outside of prison walls'. No matter how much you don't like him or how much his actions made you feel bad.

DoubleMalt 13y ago
I agree, of course. Some context about weev. (And of course regardless of my preferences he should be free unless convicted of a crime) http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/magazine/03trolls-t.html?pagewanted=all http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/magazine/03trolls-t.html?p...