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The only customer involved is Sparkfun, they were purchasing the meters for their own stock. Nobody had pre-ordered them. Not sure what SparkFun campaign you'

The only customer involved is Sparkfun, they were purchasing the meters for their own stock. Nobody had pre-ordered them. Not sure what SparkFun campaign you're talking about.

jacquesm 13y ago
https://www.sparkfun.com/news/1428 https://www.sparkfun.com/news/1428 They were out of stock, so presumably orders were taken and won't be filled, and now it will take even longer to fill those orders. Maybe some of those customers will even buy Fluke (unlikely, $20 vs $200 or so). 'their campaign': the alternative route, to seek redress, to get the colour 'yellow' narrowed down to the point where an orange DVM would be allowed to enter the United States without risking it being seized. It's a tool not a Louis Vuitton bag (I hope I spelled that right), and the colour scheme is not relevant. If it was unsafe or something like that then I could see the point. Sparkfun did what they could, they're unable to meet this challenge head-on, this shipment (and possibly whatever else is in the pipeline) is lost for all the wrong reasons and Fluke gets to make out like they're the good guys. Pick your battles is good advice, and SparkFun has rightly decided this one isn't theirs but the grace is mostly on their side and significantly less on Fluke's.
- thaumaturgy 13y ago
  > If it was unsafe or something like that then I could see the point. This is exactly the argument I've seen from EEs so far -- that Fluke meters are much safer than the knockoffs, and that the grey-with-yellow-trim color scheme is distinctive to Fluke. The EEs' safety concerns seem overblown to me, but they know a lot more about their field than I do, so I'm not inclined to dismiss them. Fluke had other options here. I doubt that the "Maker community" is really even a significant part of Fluke's sales, and the internet has the attention span of a cracked-out gnat. They could've easily ignored the whole thing altogether and been no worse for wear. Before anyone objects: pop quiz time, how many of you are at all aware of Autodesk's licensing policies? Fluke is as bound by the law as everyone else; as they explained in their post, they can't ignore trademark infringements, and they weren't even aware of the customs' seizure, they didn't make that decision. So, yeah, donating a pile of units to Sparkfun is generous of them and I really don't think it was primarily motivated by PR. As far as the wastefulness of the action goes ... I don't disagree, but I also find it peculiar that people are even mentioning that, especially in a forum like this one, in this age of ubiquitous disposable electronics. My little shop has been having to tell a lot of folks recently that they should replace their otherwise perfectly good computer just because XP support is about over. Nobody seems to think that's wasteful, though.

The only customer involved is Sparkfun, they were purchasing the meters for their own stock. Nobody had pre-ordered them. Not sure what SparkFun campaign you're talking about.

jacquesm 13y ago

https://www.sparkfun.com/news/1428 https://www.sparkfun.com/news/1428 They were out of stock, so presumably orders were taken and won't be filled, and now it will take even longer to fill those orders. Maybe some of those customers will even buy Fluke (unlikely, $20 vs $200 or so). 'their campaign': the alternative route, to seek redress, to get the colour 'yellow' narrowed down to the point where an orange DVM would be allowed to enter the United States without risking it being seized. It's a tool not a Louis Vuitton bag (I hope I spelled that right), and the colour scheme is not relevant. If it was unsafe or something like that then I could see the point. Sparkfun did what they could, they're unable to meet this challenge head-on, this shipment (and possibly whatever else is in the pipeline) is lost for all the wrong reasons and Fluke gets to make out like they're the good guys. Pick your battles is good advice, and SparkFun has rightly decided this one isn't theirs but the grace is mostly on their side and significantly less on Fluke's.

thaumaturgy 13y ago
> If it was unsafe or something like that then I could see the point. This is exactly the argument I've seen from EEs so far -- that Fluke meters are much safer than the knockoffs, and that the grey-with-yellow-trim color scheme is distinctive to Fluke. The EEs' safety concerns seem overblown to me, but they know a lot more about their field than I do, so I'm not inclined to dismiss them. Fluke had other options here. I doubt that the "Maker community" is really even a significant part of Fluke's sales, and the internet has the attention span of a cracked-out gnat. They could've easily ignored the whole thing altogether and been no worse for wear. Before anyone objects: pop quiz time, how many of you are at all aware of Autodesk's licensing policies? Fluke is as bound by the law as everyone else; as they explained in their post, they can't ignore trademark infringements, and they weren't even aware of the customs' seizure, they didn't make that decision. So, yeah, donating a pile of units to Sparkfun is generous of them and I really don't think it was primarily motivated by PR. As far as the wastefulness of the action goes ... I don't disagree, but I also find it peculiar that people are even mentioning that, especially in a forum like this one, in this age of ubiquitous disposable electronics. My little shop has been having to tell a lot of folks recently that they should replace their otherwise perfectly good computer just because XP support is about over. Nobody seems to think that's wasteful, though.