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"Companies could increase the representation of younger people in programming by paying extra money to programmers below a certain age." With ageism being cons
by gutnor 13y ago
"Companies could increase the representation of younger people in programming by paying extra money to programmers below a certain age."
With ageism being considered "natural", what about giving incentive for old developers to keep coding instead ?
- martiuk 13y agoJust pay extra money to all programmers.
- _yosefk 13y agoThink a few steps further down these lines and you'll be able to separate the people worrying about "teaching everyone to code" into evil (companies looking for cheap labor) and stupid (people thinking there are problems that need solving where there aren't any and it is "solutions" that breed problems, in this case a surplus of professionals in one area at the expense of other areas and the workers who've needlessly entered this one area.) Or maybe self-serving and naive/idealistic would be better terms. But you get the idea. Indeed any consistent argument in favor of motivating people to program would at least mention aging programmers and no such mention is to be found, or at least I never noticed it.
- jimktrains2 13y agoI take offense to your " 'teaching everyone to code' into evil and stupid" comment. When I say "everyone should know how to code" what I mean is that everyone should know how to open a spreadsheet and do calculations, conditionals, iterative calculations, &c. From there I feel it's natural to then teach them a little of something along the lines of Python to do some simple calculations and algorithms. I mean that people shouldn't be afraid to use a computer to do (gasp) computations. I don't think everyone will be a coder, engineer, or architect. I don't even think most people will enjoy it, per say, but they should know how to do it (just like someone people complain about having to take math, music, or art), using a ubiquitous tool should be part of a basic curriculum. >Indeed any consistent argument in favor of motivating people to program would at least mention aging programmers and no such mention is to be found, or at least I never noticed it. I have no idea what you mean
- null_ptr 13y ago>>Indeed any consistent argument in favor of motivating people to program would at least mention aging programmers and no such mention is to be found, or at least I never noticed it. >I have no idea what you mean Our industry has a fierce bias against older people, and indeed keeping an eye on HN for relevant stories shows that even top talent can be left to hang. If you're around at a company for long enough you'll see how some senior folk are fired and replaced by fresh college grads, sometimes after grooming those newbies for a while.
- jimktrains2 13y agoAbsolutely none of that has anything to do with what I said. Also, just because people have shop class doesn't mean that everyone will become a carpenter.
- jimktrains2 13y agoThanks to everyone who downvoted without expressing your opinion. It's great to have a discussion with you!