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Here is google maps of the lat and lng's: https://maps.google.ca/maps?q=-43.5834,90.5737 https://maps.google.ca/maps?q=-43.5834,90.5737 [from 1] https://maps.

Here is google maps of the lat and lng's: https://maps.google.ca/maps?q=-43.5834,90.5737 https://maps.google.ca/maps?q=-43.5834,90.5737 [from 1] https://maps.google.ca/maps?q=-44.0302,91.1327 https://maps.google.ca/maps?q=-44.0302,91.1327 [from 2] Based off these images: [1] https://photos-4.dropbox.com/t/0/AAAFoSL9yTdmE2e4_DanfiQ5uk_dIxS6rH4LdM3m2NlzKg/12/278996766/jpeg/32x32/3/1395306000/0/2/DIGO_00718_01_14.jpg/i8-tgdryiKA-RGrF0bqZp6kq1abmJlDkQ-02XKzQQ2E?size=1280x960 https://photos-4.dropbox.com/t/0/AAAFoSL9yTdmE2e4_DanfiQ5uk_... [2] https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjJuy3QCUAAHS7s.jpg:large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjJuy3QCUAAHS7s.jpg:large

jonah 13y ago
Someone's done some fairly high resolution terrain mapping in that area. Plus a small volcano. What's the depth in that area?
- damian2000 13y ago
  I saw a comment just saying in the thousands of metres.
- justadude 13y ago
  I read somewhere around 5000 metres, double that of Air France 447. So if that is indeed the wreckage, it will take a while to recover the black boxes.
davidw 13y ago
Ok, so unless they were trying to rendezvous with the secret undersea Nazi base on the underwater volcano, it looks like the "steal the airplane" thing either was wrong entirely or went completely awry. So I wonder how it got out there.
- alexeisadeski3 13y ago
  Irrational terrorist, irrational pilot, irrational/mentally unstable criminal, mentally unstable passenger, mentally unstable pilot, mentally unstable terrorist, or an as-yet-unimagined mechanical malfunction. In no order.
  - GotAnyMegadeth 13y ago
    Looks like the description for one of those Android apps that doesn't know Google punishes keyword lists
- Shivetya 13y ago
  Flying is my bet. As for scenarios, based on what CNN had on their screens I would say of the media, they have pretty much jumped the shark. I am more and more interested in what steps international authorities will take with regards to requirements for commercial aircraft. We have the technology to prevent disappearances like this from occurring again, so will they step up and require them? The costs of the search must be pretty high by now
  - davidw 13y ago
    > Flying is my bet. I believe you nailed that one! And some people doubted the value of speculation on forums in terms of aiding the investigation :-) People have explained on other threads that the pilot can pretty much turn off anything they want on board, so I'm not sure how you'd prevent that. Maybe they should have some kind of black-box-transponder thing that's self contained and cannot harm the aircraft even if, say, the circuitry were to catch on fire. Shrug... not my area of expertise by a long shot.
    - leoc 13y ago
      Apparently they almost do: the emergency transponder beacon at the back of the plane can be triggered by G force, and has its own battery. http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/6031271/#64 http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/re... That leads to the question of why this particular dog wasn't heard to bark when (and if) MH370 hit the water in the Indian Ocean, but that could probably be explained by assuming that the tail section sank fairly quickly: the beacon doesn't work underwater. But interestingly it also highlights what the Law of Unintended Consequences could do to self-powered, tamper-resistant systems: http://money.cnn.com/2013/07/18/news/dreamliner-fire-report/ http://money.cnn.com/2013/07/18/news/dreamliner-fire-report/
  - pizza234 13y ago
    One of the scenarios, which has been credited as reasonable, is a big fire in the aircraft [1]. In the scenario depicted, "all the busses are pulled", in which case the airplane goes silent, then restored one by one, except that because of the fire, restoration hasn't been possible. If that will prove to be the case, I think prevention measures would be quite hard - circuits were silenced. [1]=https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z13cv1gohsmbv5jmy221vrfyiz3vdhbop04 https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z13cv1gohsmbv5jmy22...

jonah 13y ago

Someone's done some fairly high resolution terrain mapping in that area. Plus a small volcano. What's the depth in that area?

damian2000 13y ago
I saw a comment just saying in the thousands of metres.
justadude 13y ago
I read somewhere around 5000 metres, double that of Air France 447. So if that is indeed the wreckage, it will take a while to recover the black boxes.

davidw 13y ago

Ok, so unless they were trying to rendezvous with the secret undersea Nazi base on the underwater volcano, it looks like the "steal the airplane" thing either was wrong entirely or went completely awry. So I wonder how it got out there.

alexeisadeski3 13y ago
Irrational terrorist, irrational pilot, irrational/mentally unstable criminal, mentally unstable passenger, mentally unstable pilot, mentally unstable terrorist, or an as-yet-unimagined mechanical malfunction. In no order.
- GotAnyMegadeth 13y ago
  Looks like the description for one of those Android apps that doesn't know Google punishes keyword lists
Shivetya 13y ago
Flying is my bet. As for scenarios, based on what CNN had on their screens I would say of the media, they have pretty much jumped the shark. I am more and more interested in what steps international authorities will take with regards to requirements for commercial aircraft. We have the technology to prevent disappearances like this from occurring again, so will they step up and require them? The costs of the search must be pretty high by now
- davidw 13y ago
  > Flying is my bet. I believe you nailed that one! And some people doubted the value of speculation on forums in terms of aiding the investigation :-) People have explained on other threads that the pilot can pretty much turn off anything they want on board, so I'm not sure how you'd prevent that. Maybe they should have some kind of black-box-transponder thing that's self contained and cannot harm the aircraft even if, say, the circuitry were to catch on fire. Shrug... not my area of expertise by a long shot.
  - leoc 13y ago
    Apparently they almost do: the emergency transponder beacon at the back of the plane can be triggered by G force, and has its own battery. http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/6031271/#64 http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/re... That leads to the question of why this particular dog wasn't heard to bark when (and if) MH370 hit the water in the Indian Ocean, but that could probably be explained by assuming that the tail section sank fairly quickly: the beacon doesn't work underwater. But interestingly it also highlights what the Law of Unintended Consequences could do to self-powered, tamper-resistant systems: http://money.cnn.com/2013/07/18/news/dreamliner-fire-report/ http://money.cnn.com/2013/07/18/news/dreamliner-fire-report/
- pizza234 13y ago
  One of the scenarios, which has been credited as reasonable, is a big fire in the aircraft [1]. In the scenario depicted, "all the busses are pulled", in which case the airplane goes silent, then restored one by one, except that because of the fire, restoration hasn't been possible. If that will prove to be the case, I think prevention measures would be quite hard - circuits were silenced. [1]=https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z13cv1gohsmbv5jmy221vrfyiz3vdhbop04 https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z13cv1gohsmbv5jmy22...