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Everyone seems pretty focused on the pricing - I thought the inclusion of an asset-marketplace directly into the editing environment was brilliant. You could i

by rkalla 13y ago

Everyone seems pretty focused on the pricing - I thought the inclusion of an asset-marketplace directly into the editing environment was brilliant. You could imagine Adobe following suit very shortly here withs something similar and invalidate all those graphic/template/icon/texture/animation sites. You just open the "marketplace" inside of Photoshop and browse around for the assets you might want. Same would go for video-editing. No more buying Action Essentials, just load up Final Cut and look for the perfect blood animation. You could imagine at some point your IDE having a marketplace inside of it to allow you to purchase proprietary platforms directly and integrate them into your project without much hassle. It's a really cool proposition, ripe for monopolization unfortunately, but surely convenient if executed on well.

croddin 13y ago
Adobe already tried that. It was discontinued. http://helpx.adobe.com/legacy/kb/stock-photo-service-being-discontinued.html http://helpx.adobe.com/legacy/kb/stock-photo-service-being-d...
- bduerst 13y ago
  Was it integrated directly into the applications, or was it a standalone?
  - croddin 13y ago
    I think it was tied in to Adobe Bridge which is tied into the other apps.
- Keyframe 13y ago
  Avid tried two versions back also for video: https://www.avid.com/US/avid-tv/MC6-Marketplace https://www.avid.com/US/avid-tv/MC6-Marketplace I don't know anyone who uses it.
maaku 13y ago
> Everyone seems pretty focused on the pricing - I thought the inclusion of an asset-marketplace directly into the editing environment was brilliant. Well, they're playing catch-up with Unity here, which has had that capability for (3?) years now.
zemo 13y ago
people aren't talking about that as much because Unity already has that, so it's not quite as new. It's just keeping up with the competition at this point.
- squidbot 13y ago
  Agreed, and it's been an amazing success for Unity. I imagine it's why they now give standard Unity away for free, they make more from the asset store than from the editor licenses.
  - kayoone 13y ago
    uhm no. Unity is not free, only the limited indie version is, Pro is $1500 which anyone who is serious about making games needs. Making a bigger game with a Team of 10 for iOS ? Get ready to shell out $3000 per seat, another $1500 for Android and basically youd also need Teamserver which is another couple of thousands. I think revenue from the Asset Store is relatively minor compared to that. Ive heard of success stories that sell plugins worth a couple of thousands per month, but thats about it and those are not many.
    - ijk 13y ago
      In 2012, the NGUI programmer stated that NGUI was making him three times what his previous job had paid, and that his starter kits were making $700-1500 a month. http://www.tasharen.com/forum/index.php?topic=2126.0 http://www.tasharen.com/forum/index.php?topic=2126.0 So that suggests there's certainly some revenue there.
      - Jare 13y ago
        NGUI was also one of the most successful plugins in the entire Store, so his revenue, while significant, should also be treated as a ceiling on what a company can expect to get.
      - kayoone 13y ago
        There certainly is, but i doubt its anywhere close to their license fee related revenues.
sliverstorm 13y ago
Great, so stock blood animation, stock Wilhelm screams, and stock explosions everywhere?
- tensenki 13y ago
  Pretty much every TV show uses the same stock newspaper, brown lunch bag, guns, and even a lot of sets among a ton of other props. You build what you need to, but don't build everything from scratch, especially if it's not integral to the narrative.
devindotcom 13y ago
I've been saying there will be a huge middle man market for assets for years. A whole studio specializing in different models for boxes - every era, every state of decay, every material. A studio dedicated to the most realistic rain effects possible - at the lowest price and graphics overhead. You don't have to worry about the "Wilhelm Scream" of boxes or rain effects though because there will be a lot of choice, a lot of options, and probably a tracking system for which assets are being used by which projects. Oh, Crysis 4 bought up all the high-def palm fronds? Sounds like there's a market for a tropics-based object studio! I got carried away. But yeah, an asset marketplace will be essential in the future if only to keep art team sizes manageable.
- rkalla 13y ago
  +10 to this. Once the channels for management can provide a painless experience to customers (studios, artists, etc.) this will do to assets what iTunes did to music.
- cmyr 13y ago
  This sounds nice from the point-of-view of somebody looking to put something together in a hurry, but this sounds awful from the point-of-view of the guy getting hired to model boxes all day. Maybe that's not a huge difference from what a lot of people are doing at AAA studios anyway, but my god.
  - venomsnake 13y ago
    You will be amazed at some of the things people get really passionate about.
  - wlesieutre 13y ago
    Some people get really excited about boxes. I could see making a collection of boxes in different styles being a neat project, though there's certainly some busywork involved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tUHJnl8qPM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tUHJnl8qPM
  - bambam12897 13y ago
frozenport 13y ago
SketchUp has a built in asset-retrieval. Also MS Office.
mikelbring 13y ago
Creative Market has a photoshop plugin that lets you do this with their platform. https://creativemarket.com/adobe-extension https://creativemarket.com/adobe-extension
- rkalla 13y ago
  Not for long, Autodesk just bought them today. Looks like the marketplace-for-assets is starting. https://creativemarket.com/blog/2014/03/19/building-the-worlds-marketplace-for-design https://creativemarket.com/blog/2014/03/19/building-the-worl...
markovbling 13y ago
Great idea! If Adobe charges a smaller commission to the asset designers than the existing marketplace sites then it would be better for the designers because they could build their profiles in a centralized, trusted place instead of bouncing between the hottest marketplace for each "asset class". I'd imagine that would make it a double win for designers because it would not only lead to net more "asset" sales but also more design work because you'd be able to search by "highest rated" asset creator etc. Adobe could even extend to being a freelance marketplace in the sense that they can be the asset creators' pimps by showing the current highest rate per hour that the designer is being paid and that you'd have to pay to get access to them as a freelancer :)

by rkalla 13y ago

croddin 13y ago

Adobe already tried that. It was discontinued. http://helpx.adobe.com/legacy/kb/stock-photo-service-being-discontinued.html http://helpx.adobe.com/legacy/kb/stock-photo-service-being-d...

bduerst 13y ago
Was it integrated directly into the applications, or was it a standalone?
- croddin 13y ago
  I think it was tied in to Adobe Bridge which is tied into the other apps.
Keyframe 13y ago
Avid tried two versions back also for video: https://www.avid.com/US/avid-tv/MC6-Marketplace https://www.avid.com/US/avid-tv/MC6-Marketplace I don't know anyone who uses it.

maaku 13y ago

> Everyone seems pretty focused on the pricing - I thought the inclusion of an asset-marketplace directly into the editing environment was brilliant. Well, they're playing catch-up with Unity here, which has had that capability for (3?) years now.

zemo 13y ago

people aren't talking about that as much because Unity already has that, so it's not quite as new. It's just keeping up with the competition at this point.

squidbot 13y ago
Agreed, and it's been an amazing success for Unity. I imagine it's why they now give standard Unity away for free, they make more from the asset store than from the editor licenses.
- kayoone 13y ago
  uhm no. Unity is not free, only the limited indie version is, Pro is $1500 which anyone who is serious about making games needs. Making a bigger game with a Team of 10 for iOS ? Get ready to shell out $3000 per seat, another $1500 for Android and basically youd also need Teamserver which is another couple of thousands. I think revenue from the Asset Store is relatively minor compared to that. Ive heard of success stories that sell plugins worth a couple of thousands per month, but thats about it and those are not many.
  - ijk 13y ago
    In 2012, the NGUI programmer stated that NGUI was making him three times what his previous job had paid, and that his starter kits were making $700-1500 a month. http://www.tasharen.com/forum/index.php?topic=2126.0 http://www.tasharen.com/forum/index.php?topic=2126.0 So that suggests there's certainly some revenue there.
    - Jare 13y ago
      NGUI was also one of the most successful plugins in the entire Store, so his revenue, while significant, should also be treated as a ceiling on what a company can expect to get.
    - kayoone 13y ago
      There certainly is, but i doubt its anywhere close to their license fee related revenues.

sliverstorm 13y ago

Great, so stock blood animation, stock Wilhelm screams, and stock explosions everywhere?

tensenki 13y ago
Pretty much every TV show uses the same stock newspaper, brown lunch bag, guns, and even a lot of sets among a ton of other props. You build what you need to, but don't build everything from scratch, especially if it's not integral to the narrative.

devindotcom 13y ago

I've been saying there will be a huge middle man market for assets for years. A whole studio specializing in different models for boxes - every era, every state of decay, every material. A studio dedicated to the most realistic rain effects possible - at the lowest price and graphics overhead. You don't have to worry about the "Wilhelm Scream" of boxes or rain effects though because there will be a lot of choice, a lot of options, and probably a tracking system for which assets are being used by which projects. Oh, Crysis 4 bought up all the high-def palm fronds? Sounds like there's a market for a tropics-based object studio! I got carried away. But yeah, an asset marketplace will be essential in the future if only to keep art team sizes manageable.

rkalla 13y ago
+10 to this. Once the channels for management can provide a painless experience to customers (studios, artists, etc.) this will do to assets what iTunes did to music.
cmyr 13y ago
This sounds nice from the point-of-view of somebody looking to put something together in a hurry, but this sounds awful from the point-of-view of the guy getting hired to model boxes all day. Maybe that's not a huge difference from what a lot of people are doing at AAA studios anyway, but my god.
- venomsnake 13y ago
  You will be amazed at some of the things people get really passionate about.
- wlesieutre 13y ago
  Some people get really excited about boxes. I could see making a collection of boxes in different styles being a neat project, though there's certainly some busywork involved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tUHJnl8qPM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tUHJnl8qPM
- bambam12897 13y ago

frozenport 13y ago

SketchUp has a built in asset-retrieval. Also MS Office.

mikelbring 13y ago

Creative Market has a photoshop plugin that lets you do this with their platform. https://creativemarket.com/adobe-extension https://creativemarket.com/adobe-extension

rkalla 13y ago
Not for long, Autodesk just bought them today. Looks like the marketplace-for-assets is starting. https://creativemarket.com/blog/2014/03/19/building-the-worlds-marketplace-for-design https://creativemarket.com/blog/2014/03/19/building-the-worl...

markovbling 13y ago

Great idea! If Adobe charges a smaller commission to the asset designers than the existing marketplace sites then it would be better for the designers because they could build their profiles in a centralized, trusted place instead of bouncing between the hottest marketplace for each "asset class". I'd imagine that would make it a double win for designers because it would not only lead to net more "asset" sales but also more design work because you'd be able to search by "highest rated" asset creator etc. Adobe could even extend to being a freelance marketplace in the sense that they can be the asset creators' pimps by showing the current highest rate per hour that the designer is being paid and that you'd have to pay to get access to them as a freelancer :)