Well that's just silly. The native platforms already have the frameworks in place, and have done since the beginning. If you were writing a game in a native sys

Well that's just silly. The native platforms already have the frameworks in place, and have done since the beginning. If you were writing a game in a native system you'd have to choose from different frameworks - or write your own. With JS the restrictions and limitations of the system are different. People are coming up with creative and innovative ways to work with them. There's no problem with that, it a process that's ongoing in all software, and forever will be. Also, "You" should really avoid using "They", especially when it applies to a broad group of people that you're making assumptions and judgements about. Maybe "You" have no idea what HTML5 apps offer (like portability)? I happen to think that html5 is going to be a major player in apps development, which puts me in your "They" camp, then again, I know what native offers - so I'm one of the many contradictions to your statement.