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It's because I find Android works best when using Google's services and as I'm not paying for those (and they are using my info to sell ads) I trust Apple more

It's because I find Android works best when using Google's services and as I'm not paying for those (and they are using my info to sell ads) I trust Apple more to protect my data (it's in their interest).

jhvh1134 13y ago
Weren't they recently caught silently logging GPS coordinates and transmitting them once the phone was connected to a computer? How is it not in there interest to utilize personalized data?
psbp 13y ago
Aren't Google's ad monetization practices fairly transparent? You can see all the data collected in the dashboard, you can see how ads are targeted under the ad settings. It seems like people are alluding to Google's data usage as some sort of black box where it seems pretty open to me.
- nfoz 13y ago
  Their practices are fairly transparent, they show me that they sell my info in a way that I dislike.
  - psbp 13y ago
    Selling info is a misnomer.
  - hahainternet 13y ago
    Except they don't. They sell your potential clicks.
wutbrodo 13y ago
Ah OK so you were considering android and Google services together. I assumed they were easily extricable but I've never used android without Google so I suppose that assumption may be incorrect. That being said, I don't really understand the assumption that Apple would be a good steward of personal data. As someone else alluded to on this thread, it came out _years_ ago that Apple was collecting fine grained location logs and storing them in a fully readable (unencrypted) file on each ios device (and I believe on any computer that the phone was synced to). I can't think of any behavior in Android that's even close to as egregious as that, for me.
dirkgently 13y ago
What about your ISP? What about your network provide? Do you trust them? And if it's in Apple's interest to protect your data, it's in Google's interest all the more to protect your data - because they do make money of some of it. Also, they have a very public declaration of what they do with the data, how they are stored and how long. With Apple, I have no fucking idea. Also, when it comes to security, Apple has no stellar record - their's have been slow and callow approach to security (and security by obscurity).

jhvh1134 13y ago

Weren't they recently caught silently logging GPS coordinates and transmitting them once the phone was connected to a computer? How is it not in there interest to utilize personalized data?

psbp 13y ago

Aren't Google's ad monetization practices fairly transparent? You can see all the data collected in the dashboard, you can see how ads are targeted under the ad settings. It seems like people are alluding to Google's data usage as some sort of black box where it seems pretty open to me.

nfoz 13y ago
Their practices are fairly transparent, they show me that they sell my info in a way that I dislike.
- psbp 13y ago
  Selling info is a misnomer.
- hahainternet 13y ago
  Except they don't. They sell your potential clicks.

wutbrodo 13y ago

Ah OK so you were considering android and Google services together. I assumed they were easily extricable but I've never used android without Google so I suppose that assumption may be incorrect. That being said, I don't really understand the assumption that Apple would be a good steward of personal data. As someone else alluded to on this thread, it came out _years_ ago that Apple was collecting fine grained location logs and storing them in a fully readable (unencrypted) file on each ios device (and I believe on any computer that the phone was synced to). I can't think of any behavior in Android that's even close to as egregious as that, for me.

dirkgently 13y ago

What about your ISP? What about your network provide? Do you trust them? And if it's in Apple's interest to protect your data, it's in Google's interest all the more to protect your data - because they do make money of some of it. Also, they have a very public declaration of what they do with the data, how they are stored and how long. With Apple, I have no fucking idea. Also, when it comes to security, Apple has no stellar record - their's have been slow and callow approach to security (and security by obscurity).