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Kudos to you, it's alway great so see people talking about natural birth control methods without mentioning God or religion in the same sentence. It's virtually

by ntaso 13y ago

Kudos to you, it's alway great so see people talking about natural birth control methods without mentioning God or religion in the same sentence. It's virtually impossible to find good resources about the sympto-thermal method in English without landing on a very Christian-oriented website. But I'm wondering: What's the business model you have? I'm asking, because I'm in the same space. Mostly in Germany, but I also have an app for the English-speaking population: http://mynfp.net/ http://mynfp.net/ It costs 5.99$ and it's certainly nothing I can live from alone. However, the app is just an "appendix" to my SaaS business which is the same thing, but bigger and better, which generates revenue to be sunstainable in the long term.

jaldoretta 13y ago
Thanks! It's awesome to hear from another person in this space. We're still working out our business model (right now we're planning a subscription-based app to practice FAM/NFP, but that could change). But we have plans to add more features and perhaps another product. Hardware may also be in our future =)
- ntaso 13y ago
  Well, good luck to you then :) There are a few more people in this space, especially in the app market. Recently, "Glow" was released, which is more aimed towards women who want to conceive, but they might go into the birth control segment. Although I think they will fail with their current product in this market. There's Clue (helloclue.com); Ovuline; TrueCycle (seems to be dead?); and all the gibberish period calendar apps.
DanielStraight 13y ago
I know several people who have used this book/site, and as far as I know, there are no religious connections: http://tcoyf.com/ http://tcoyf.com/
- jaldoretta 13y ago
  That book is actually how I first learned, and it's an awesome read.
nsxwolf 13y ago
You can't find secular versions of NFP because the hormonal birth control and sterilization industry created what they felt was the perfect no muss, no fuss solution, and couldn't imagine why anyone but the "religious crazies" could possibly want an alternative to it. You can thank the religious people for continuing to develop the science over the decades when the world went absolutely bananas for the pill.
- sounds 13y ago
  So if I'm understanding you right, industry as a whole chose a method which though it has benefits also has drawbacks – so much so that they ignored research? And it was religious people who continued fundamental research? Very interesting! And not what I've seen in other cases. I'm happy to have my stereotypes challenged.
  - ntaso 13y ago
    He's at least partly right. Most studies in this area are directly or indirectly sponsored by the church. This doesn't make the sympto-thermal method a religious thing and the studies are still scientific, but the church was one of the few who gave financial aid. Thing is, the method can be done on a piece of paper. So far, not many people had commercial interest in further research. The few who had, used their finances to build birth-control monitors (a piece of hardware) and tied their studies to their specific products. So, yeah, the church definitely put money in it whereas not many corporations or investors did.
  - nsxwolf 13y ago
    And I don't want to discount the secular contributions to the research, because they have been there the whole time. But especially in the Catholic church, after Humanae Vitae, there was a lot of motivation to be able to offer an acceptable alternative to contraception. I'm glad this is becoming more popular in secular circles. I always figured it would, given how health conscious people have become. Women don't want to eat GMOs or gluten, but are just fine with taking hormones that shut down a major component of the body?
  - wayward 13y ago
MicroBerto 13y ago
Since the developer and I are both here in Austin, I was planning on pitching them with our product price comparison API so that they can receive commissions on any products sold through it. Despite the ridiculous nature of some of the products in the sexual health niche (ie "Ejaculoid"), there are indeed several vitamins and supplements that promote increased sperm volume and sperm mobility for men. I haven't personally looked into the women's side, however. It wouldn't be a huge form of monetization, but it's extremely well-targeted and ethical (since we send users to good deals). It could help with a piece of the pie instead of standard advertising.
- ntaso 13y ago
  Interesting suggestion, but I'd use affiliate as the icing on the cake, not as the main business model.

by ntaso 13y ago

jaldoretta 13y ago

Thanks! It's awesome to hear from another person in this space. We're still working out our business model (right now we're planning a subscription-based app to practice FAM/NFP, but that could change). But we have plans to add more features and perhaps another product. Hardware may also be in our future =)

ntaso 13y ago
Well, good luck to you then :) There are a few more people in this space, especially in the app market. Recently, "Glow" was released, which is more aimed towards women who want to conceive, but they might go into the birth control segment. Although I think they will fail with their current product in this market. There's Clue (helloclue.com); Ovuline; TrueCycle (seems to be dead?); and all the gibberish period calendar apps.

DanielStraight 13y ago

I know several people who have used this book/site, and as far as I know, there are no religious connections: http://tcoyf.com/ http://tcoyf.com/

jaldoretta 13y ago
That book is actually how I first learned, and it's an awesome read.

nsxwolf 13y ago

You can't find secular versions of NFP because the hormonal birth control and sterilization industry created what they felt was the perfect no muss, no fuss solution, and couldn't imagine why anyone but the "religious crazies" could possibly want an alternative to it. You can thank the religious people for continuing to develop the science over the decades when the world went absolutely bananas for the pill.

sounds 13y ago
So if I'm understanding you right, industry as a whole chose a method which though it has benefits also has drawbacks – so much so that they ignored research? And it was religious people who continued fundamental research? Very interesting! And not what I've seen in other cases. I'm happy to have my stereotypes challenged.
- ntaso 13y ago
  He's at least partly right. Most studies in this area are directly or indirectly sponsored by the church. This doesn't make the sympto-thermal method a religious thing and the studies are still scientific, but the church was one of the few who gave financial aid. Thing is, the method can be done on a piece of paper. So far, not many people had commercial interest in further research. The few who had, used their finances to build birth-control monitors (a piece of hardware) and tied their studies to their specific products. So, yeah, the church definitely put money in it whereas not many corporations or investors did.
- nsxwolf 13y ago
  And I don't want to discount the secular contributions to the research, because they have been there the whole time. But especially in the Catholic church, after Humanae Vitae, there was a lot of motivation to be able to offer an acceptable alternative to contraception. I'm glad this is becoming more popular in secular circles. I always figured it would, given how health conscious people have become. Women don't want to eat GMOs or gluten, but are just fine with taking hormones that shut down a major component of the body?
- wayward 13y ago

MicroBerto 13y ago

Since the developer and I are both here in Austin, I was planning on pitching them with our product price comparison API so that they can receive commissions on any products sold through it. Despite the ridiculous nature of some of the products in the sexual health niche (ie "Ejaculoid"), there are indeed several vitamins and supplements that promote increased sperm volume and sperm mobility for men. I haven't personally looked into the women's side, however. It wouldn't be a huge form of monetization, but it's extremely well-targeted and ethical (since we send users to good deals). It could help with a piece of the pie instead of standard advertising.

ntaso 13y ago
Interesting suggestion, but I'd use affiliate as the icing on the cake, not as the main business model.