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Well, at least he's doing his best to prove the myth of all programmers being humorless autists who take everything literally to be true... Yes, sure, we're ta

Well, at least he's doing his best to prove the myth of all programmers being humorless autists who take everything literally to be true... Yes, sure, we're talking about exactly 10x when we talk about 10x programmers. Etcetera, etcetera. Even the most fanatical Agile evangelist gets both the tongue in cheek humor (with a serious undertone) of Zed's "programming, motherfucker", but not this guy.

Pacabel 13y ago
To be fair, sometimes it is hard to tell when those in the Ruby/JavaScript/Web 2.0/NoSQL/"opinionated" crowd are being serious and when they're joking. Some of the claims or statements they make in a serious manner are so far off-base that they appear to be jokes to those with more experience or higher standards. The "JavaScript is like Scheme" claim is a good example of this. A lot of JavaScripters will openly express this idea in complete seriousness. Yet anyone who has actually used JavaScript and Scheme will know that this really isn't true at all. The true intent of the person making the outrageous claim is hard to discern. They might be serious, or they might be joking. Often, it's safest to assume that they're being serious, until they explicitly admit otherwise.
- qohen 13y ago
  A detailed discussion of the "JavaScript is like Scheme" meme's history and a critical look at it: http://journal.stuffwithstuff.com/2013/07/18/javascript-isnt-scheme/ http://journal.stuffwithstuff.com/2013/07/18/javascript-isnt...
Morendil 13y ago
I don't mean to make fun of you, but: http://badassprogrammers.com/ http://badassprogrammers.com/ basically demolishes that line of argument (and in the bargain confirms that Poe's Law does apply in Zed's case). Particularly poignant is the way they redacted "autistic idiots" to "socially awkward idiots": if you're going play the "politically incorrect" card, play it with panache instead of being hypocritical about it.

Pacabel 13y ago

To be fair, sometimes it is hard to tell when those in the Ruby/JavaScript/Web 2.0/NoSQL/"opinionated" crowd are being serious and when they're joking. Some of the claims or statements they make in a serious manner are so far off-base that they appear to be jokes to those with more experience or higher standards. The "JavaScript is like Scheme" claim is a good example of this. A lot of JavaScripters will openly express this idea in complete seriousness. Yet anyone who has actually used JavaScript and Scheme will know that this really isn't true at all. The true intent of the person making the outrageous claim is hard to discern. They might be serious, or they might be joking. Often, it's safest to assume that they're being serious, until they explicitly admit otherwise.

qohen 13y ago
A detailed discussion of the "JavaScript is like Scheme" meme's history and a critical look at it: http://journal.stuffwithstuff.com/2013/07/18/javascript-isnt-scheme/ http://journal.stuffwithstuff.com/2013/07/18/javascript-isnt...

Morendil 13y ago

I don't mean to make fun of you, but: http://badassprogrammers.com/ http://badassprogrammers.com/ basically demolishes that line of argument (and in the bargain confirms that Poe's Law does apply in Zed's case). Particularly poignant is the way they redacted "autistic idiots" to "socially awkward idiots": if you're going play the "politically incorrect" card, play it with panache instead of being hypocritical about it.