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I downvoted it because people will go to any rhetorical lengths, including "un-defining" the very word intelligence to death, just to believe some people aren't

by benched 13y ago

I downvoted it because people will go to any rhetorical lengths, including "un-defining" the very word intelligence to death, just to believe some people aren't more intelligent than others. Oh, new rule! We can concede there are "10x" devs, but they have to write shit code! Give me a break.

wehadfun 13y ago
Ok fine. I should not have called the orig developers code shit.
k__ 13y ago
Fair enough. But couldn't it be that those "real" 10x devs are so rare, that they aren't a "thing"? With real I mean those who don't write shitty code.
- computerslol 13y ago
  They ARE a thing. Work for any large and successful software company and you'll find (or hear stories about) at least one. Look for the people that are consistently put on mission critical projects. There are more types of extraordinary developers, but 10x is the only one I hear consistently mentioned.
- benched 13y ago
  I.e.: Let's explore every possible angle from which we could detract from the phenomenon. Leave no stone unturned! By my count, I've worked with 6 of these mythical creatures at 3 jobs in 15 years. Is that rare? I don't think so. The fact is, in a lot of cases the team or even the entire company would not even exist as they did, without these people. And everyone knew it because it was blindingly obvious. What would id software have been without John Carmack? Did you know that the first version of Microsoft Math, which included a fully general algebra solver, was written by one guy as a side project? Nobody else on that whole team did anything like that. Just that guy. The 10x dev is the person all the other devs are intimidated by, strictly on the basis of the code they've written.
  - k__ 13y ago
    I know about guys like Carmack. He was the one I was thinking about when asking the question. But I never met one like him. To me, such people simply are far away in some big companys across the sea. I always hope to meet such people to learn from them "how to do it".

by benched 13y ago

wehadfun 13y ago

Ok fine. I should not have called the orig developers code shit.

k__ 13y ago

Fair enough. But couldn't it be that those "real" 10x devs are so rare, that they aren't a "thing"? With real I mean those who don't write shitty code.

computerslol 13y ago
They ARE a thing. Work for any large and successful software company and you'll find (or hear stories about) at least one. Look for the people that are consistently put on mission critical projects. There are more types of extraordinary developers, but 10x is the only one I hear consistently mentioned.
benched 13y ago
I.e.: Let's explore every possible angle from which we could detract from the phenomenon. Leave no stone unturned! By my count, I've worked with 6 of these mythical creatures at 3 jobs in 15 years. Is that rare? I don't think so. The fact is, in a lot of cases the team or even the entire company would not even exist as they did, without these people. And everyone knew it because it was blindingly obvious. What would id software have been without John Carmack? Did you know that the first version of Microsoft Math, which included a fully general algebra solver, was written by one guy as a side project? Nobody else on that whole team did anything like that. Just that guy. The 10x dev is the person all the other devs are intimidated by, strictly on the basis of the code they've written.
- k__ 13y ago
  I know about guys like Carmack. He was the one I was thinking about when asking the question. But I never met one like him. To me, such people simply are far away in some big companys across the sea. I always hope to meet such people to learn from them "how to do it".