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They made a nice video of the researcher surprising Prof Linde with the news: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlfIVEy_YOA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlfIVEy_

They made a nice video of the researcher surprising Prof Linde with the news: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlfIVEy_YOA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlfIVEy_YOA The reaction of the couple is great!

sanxiyn 13y ago
Linde: "Can can can can can you repeat it?" It was very touching.
cromwellian 13y ago
I love the humility, skepticism of belief Linde professes at the end. Despite a deep desire to believe in the beautiful, he is well aware of how you can be seduced into believing things because you want to, not because the universe is that way.
- LeoNatan25 13y ago
  This is what separates the scientists from ... others.
  - Balgair 13y ago
    We can only wish that is true, we are all just humans in the end: http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21588057-scientists-think-science-self-correcting-alarming-degree-it-not-trouble http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21588057-scientists-t... Also, I vaguely remember a study in 'some journal' that looked at all it's P values[0] and found an alarming number of them parked right at the limit of acceptance (.05), more so than chance could assume. If anyone remembers this study and can provide actual proof (not my terrible memory), I would be very thankful. [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-value https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-value
    - betenoire 13y ago
      I don't think he's commenting on statistical analysis, but rather saying that a scientist should follow the clues where ever it may take them, instead of looking for the clues that will get them where they want to be. And of course they fuck up, too.
    - judk 13y ago
      http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_P._A._Ioannidis http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_P._A._Ioannidis "Most published findings are probably false."
    - lomnakkus 13y ago
      I can't claim to understand much of the statistics, but according to [1], p-values are pretty sketchy as a measure of "is this likely to be true?" [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez4DgdurRPg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez4DgdurRPg
  - hexagonc 13y ago
    Or rather, the scientific method from. . . other ways of "knowing"
- snarkyturtle 13y ago
  There's a Ben Franklin quote: "Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see." Seems like Linde subscribes to that thought, as all scientifically-minded people do.
skore 13y ago
Such short news he brought them, too! "It's 5σ at .2" His wife, also a theoretical physicist - blank stare "Discovery?" - immediately melts into a hug. What a great thing, to be able to see the human side, makes you all warm and fuzzy for human progress.
- eranation 13y ago
  Any chance a non physicist / scientist can understand in a nutshell what it means? (5σ at .2) it has been a long time since college. Is that a statistical notation? or something specific to physics? Googling it (or even using symbolhound) didn't render good results for me.
  - tshadwell 13y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty#Measurements https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty#Measurements "When the uncertainty represents the standard error of the measurement, then about 68.2% of the time, the true value of the measured quantity falls within the stated uncertainty range. For example, it is likely that for 31.8% of the atomic mass values given on the list of elements by atomic mass, the true value lies outside of the stated range. If the width of the interval is doubled, then probably only 4.6% of the true values lie outside the doubled interval, and if the width is tripled, probably only 0.3% lie outside. These values follow from the properties of the normal distribution, and they apply only if the measurement process produces normally distributed errors. In that case, the quoted standard errors are easily converted to 68.3% ("one sigma"), 95.4% ("two sigma"), or 99.7% ("three sigma") confidence intervals."
  - sorenvrist 13y ago
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_deviation#cite_ref-4 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_deviation#cite_ref-4 "Particle physics uses a standard of "5 sigma" for the declaration of a discovery. At five-sigma there is only one chance in nearly two million that a random fluctuation would yield the result. This level of certainty prompted the announcement that a particle consistent with the Higgs boson has been discovered in two independent experiments at CERN."
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iscrewyou 13y ago
Can you (or someone) explain what he says right before the lady hugs him and Prof Linde asks to repeat to him? EDIT: Nevermind, it's in the article.
nostromo 13y ago
This is the type of moment every person should aspire to have with a parent or mentor at least once in their life.
scotth 13y ago
Well that just made my day.
lifeisstillgood 13y ago
That is an awesome video. I would love to see this on TV news even for a moment - just validating the long pursuit of scientific knowledge.
sixQuarks 13y ago
I love that he was so excited to tell them, he just blurted it out as soon as they opened the door.
Cookingboy 13y ago
I like how he thought it was a delivery guy for something he ordered when he opened the door. Yep, it was a delivery alright, of one order of Nobel Prize :)

sanxiyn 13y ago

Linde: "Can can can can can you repeat it?" It was very touching.

cromwellian 13y ago

I love the humility, skepticism of belief Linde professes at the end. Despite a deep desire to believe in the beautiful, he is well aware of how you can be seduced into believing things because you want to, not because the universe is that way.

LeoNatan25 13y ago
This is what separates the scientists from ... others.
- Balgair 13y ago
  We can only wish that is true, we are all just humans in the end: http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21588057-scientists-think-science-self-correcting-alarming-degree-it-not-trouble http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21588057-scientists-t... Also, I vaguely remember a study in 'some journal' that looked at all it's P values[0] and found an alarming number of them parked right at the limit of acceptance (.05), more so than chance could assume. If anyone remembers this study and can provide actual proof (not my terrible memory), I would be very thankful. [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-value https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-value
  - betenoire 13y ago
    I don't think he's commenting on statistical analysis, but rather saying that a scientist should follow the clues where ever it may take them, instead of looking for the clues that will get them where they want to be. And of course they fuck up, too.
  - judk 13y ago
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_P._A._Ioannidis http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_P._A._Ioannidis "Most published findings are probably false."
  - lomnakkus 13y ago
    I can't claim to understand much of the statistics, but according to [1], p-values are pretty sketchy as a measure of "is this likely to be true?" [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez4DgdurRPg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez4DgdurRPg
- hexagonc 13y ago
  Or rather, the scientific method from. . . other ways of "knowing"
snarkyturtle 13y ago
There's a Ben Franklin quote: "Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see." Seems like Linde subscribes to that thought, as all scientifically-minded people do.

skore 13y ago

Such short news he brought them, too! "It's 5σ at .2" His wife, also a theoretical physicist - blank stare "Discovery?" - immediately melts into a hug. What a great thing, to be able to see the human side, makes you all warm and fuzzy for human progress.

eranation 13y ago
Any chance a non physicist / scientist can understand in a nutshell what it means? (5σ at .2) it has been a long time since college. Is that a statistical notation? or something specific to physics? Googling it (or even using symbolhound) didn't render good results for me.
- tshadwell 13y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty#Measurements https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty#Measurements "When the uncertainty represents the standard error of the measurement, then about 68.2% of the time, the true value of the measured quantity falls within the stated uncertainty range. For example, it is likely that for 31.8% of the atomic mass values given on the list of elements by atomic mass, the true value lies outside of the stated range. If the width of the interval is doubled, then probably only 4.6% of the true values lie outside the doubled interval, and if the width is tripled, probably only 0.3% lie outside. These values follow from the properties of the normal distribution, and they apply only if the measurement process produces normally distributed errors. In that case, the quoted standard errors are easily converted to 68.3% ("one sigma"), 95.4% ("two sigma"), or 99.7% ("three sigma") confidence intervals."
- sorenvrist 13y ago
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_deviation#cite_ref-4 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_deviation#cite_ref-4 "Particle physics uses a standard of "5 sigma" for the declaration of a discovery. At five-sigma there is only one chance in nearly two million that a random fluctuation would yield the result. This level of certainty prompted the announcement that a particle consistent with the Higgs boson has been discovered in two independent experiments at CERN."
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iscrewyou 13y ago

Can you (or someone) explain what he says right before the lady hugs him and Prof Linde asks to repeat to him? EDIT: Nevermind, it's in the article.

nostromo 13y ago

This is the type of moment every person should aspire to have with a parent or mentor at least once in their life.

scotth 13y ago

Well that just made my day.

lifeisstillgood 13y ago

That is an awesome video. I would love to see this on TV news even for a moment - just validating the long pursuit of scientific knowledge.

sixQuarks 13y ago

I love that he was so excited to tell them, he just blurted it out as soon as they opened the door.

Cookingboy 13y ago

I like how he thought it was a delivery guy for something he ordered when he opened the door. Yep, it was a delivery alright, of one order of Nobel Prize :)