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ICANN is a mafia! They did this to actually force some old domains to get back into the market. ICANN as an organization will profit little from this, but the p

by kolev 13y ago

ICANN is a mafia! They did this to actually force some old domains to get back into the market. ICANN as an organization will profit little from this, but the people bribing them (domainers, auction sites, domain escrows, etc.) will vastly profit from it. Imagine what would happen if somebody sends you a letter and they get back a letter saying that you cannot receive the letter as you didn't verify your name with USPS? It's 2014 and things like redemption period and fees are daylight legalized scams. I cannot believe that we allow ICANN to do whatever they want with us for so long!

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talideon 13y ago
Actually, this whole this was included under pressure from law enforcement agencies (LEAs). Registrars, registries, and ICANN themselves would much prefer we stuck with the old WDRP regime where all that happens is that the registrars periodically ask that registrants verify that the information provided is correct. This new LEA-mandated nonsense is nothing but a drain on registrars (which is a business with thin margins as it is). Also, redemption isn't a scam, it's a fine to discourage people from making ridiculously late payment! You're given a 45 day window after a domain expires to pay for the renewal before the domain ends up in redemption, and registrars are required to send at least three separate reminder emails at specific intervals to tell you the domain is expiring or has expired. If you can't pay your bills within 45 days, ICANN, the registries, and the registrars aren't the problem: you're own incompetence is the problem.
- kolev 13y ago
  No, ICANN is legitimized fraud. You can be 90-day overdue with utilities and you pay a relatively small fee. Phone companies don't give your phone number to your competitor or auction it. This is ridiculous! If the annual fee is $10-15, one shouldn't charge $150 a redemption (i.e. extortion fee)!
  - talideon 13y ago
    It's called an 'expiration date' for a reason: that's the date you're supposed to have paid for continued service by. The grace period (and the redemption period) are leeway. It's in no way an extortion fee: you're given plenty of notice before the domain expires, and if it ends up in redemption, you only have your own incompetence to blame. Also, you don't own the domain, it's a lease. If you let a domain expire and a competitor snaps it up, that's on you, not the registrar. You can initiate UDRP actions to recover it, but it's your fault.

by kolev 13y ago

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talideon 13y ago

Actually, this whole this was included under pressure from law enforcement agencies (LEAs). Registrars, registries, and ICANN themselves would much prefer we stuck with the old WDRP regime where all that happens is that the registrars periodically ask that registrants verify that the information provided is correct. This new LEA-mandated nonsense is nothing but a drain on registrars (which is a business with thin margins as it is). Also, redemption isn't a scam, it's a fine to discourage people from making ridiculously late payment! You're given a 45 day window after a domain expires to pay for the renewal before the domain ends up in redemption, and registrars are required to send at least three separate reminder emails at specific intervals to tell you the domain is expiring or has expired. If you can't pay your bills within 45 days, ICANN, the registries, and the registrars aren't the problem: you're own incompetence is the problem.

kolev 13y ago
No, ICANN is legitimized fraud. You can be 90-day overdue with utilities and you pay a relatively small fee. Phone companies don't give your phone number to your competitor or auction it. This is ridiculous! If the annual fee is $10-15, one shouldn't charge $150 a redemption (i.e. extortion fee)!
- talideon 13y ago
  It's called an 'expiration date' for a reason: that's the date you're supposed to have paid for continued service by. The grace period (and the redemption period) are leeway. It's in no way an extortion fee: you're given plenty of notice before the domain expires, and if it ends up in redemption, you only have your own incompetence to blame. Also, you don't own the domain, it's a lease. If you let a domain expire and a competitor snaps it up, that's on you, not the registrar. You can initiate UDRP actions to recover it, but it's your fault.