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You shouldn't put so much faith into our system. Your theoretical model for how the system works falls short of reality. If you truly think the law is applied

by woofuls 13y ago

You shouldn't put so much faith into our system. Your theoretical model for how the system works falls short of reality. If you truly think the law is applied equally among all, you need to do some serious research. The powerful among us don't have to obey the laws like everyone else. Finally, it isn't the powerless among us writing or influencing those who do write the laws.

tsotha 13y ago
>Your theoretical model for how the system works falls short of reality. If you truly think the law is applied equally among all, you need to do some serious research. Actually, the laws in the US are pretty evenly enforced. It's as close as you're going to get in the real world. >Finally, it isn't the powerless among us writing or influencing those who do write the laws. Everyone gets to vote. Granted, we can't all make large campaign contributions, but ultimately the vote is what actually matters.
- omegaworks 13y ago
  >Everyone gets to vote. Granted, we can't all make large campaign contributions, but ultimately the vote is what actually matters. Wrong, on the most basic level. [1] 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_College_(United_States) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_College_(United_State...
  - dalke 13y ago
    Also wrong because in many states convicted felons are disenfranchised. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony_disenfranchisement#United_States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony_disenfranchisement#Unite... . "As of 2010, all the various state felony disenfranchisement laws added together block an estimated 5.9 million Americans from voting."
    - tsotha 13y ago
      Well, thank God for that. Let me rephrase then: Everyone who isn't a complete and total loser gets to vote.
      - dalke 13y ago
        I find it very odd that a convicted felon in Kentucky is unable to vote, and considered a "total loser" by you, while someone who did the same crime in Maine has not lost the vote, and so is not a loser. You can of course define "total loser" to include someone who has been disenfranchised, but that would be an unusual definition that seems deliberately constructed to misinform.
  - res0nat0r 13y ago
    Refocus on the third sentence... Instead, they are elected by "electors" who are chosen by popular vote on a state-by-state basis.[3]
  - tsotha 13y ago
    It's not wrong at all. The vote is still what matters, even with the electoral college.

by woofuls 13y ago

tsotha 13y ago

>Your theoretical model for how the system works falls short of reality. If you truly think the law is applied equally among all, you need to do some serious research. Actually, the laws in the US are pretty evenly enforced. It's as close as you're going to get in the real world. >Finally, it isn't the powerless among us writing or influencing those who do write the laws. Everyone gets to vote. Granted, we can't all make large campaign contributions, but ultimately the vote is what actually matters.

omegaworks 13y ago
>Everyone gets to vote. Granted, we can't all make large campaign contributions, but ultimately the vote is what actually matters. Wrong, on the most basic level. [1] 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_College_(United_States) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_College_(United_State...
- dalke 13y ago
  Also wrong because in many states convicted felons are disenfranchised. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony_disenfranchisement#United_States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony_disenfranchisement#Unite... . "As of 2010, all the various state felony disenfranchisement laws added together block an estimated 5.9 million Americans from voting."
  - tsotha 13y ago
    Well, thank God for that. Let me rephrase then: Everyone who isn't a complete and total loser gets to vote.
    - dalke 13y ago
      I find it very odd that a convicted felon in Kentucky is unable to vote, and considered a "total loser" by you, while someone who did the same crime in Maine has not lost the vote, and so is not a loser. You can of course define "total loser" to include someone who has been disenfranchised, but that would be an unusual definition that seems deliberately constructed to misinform.
- res0nat0r 13y ago
  Refocus on the third sentence... Instead, they are elected by "electors" who are chosen by popular vote on a state-by-state basis.[3]
- tsotha 13y ago
  It's not wrong at all. The vote is still what matters, even with the electoral college.