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The words "crime" or "prison" don't appear in your links, so they don't support your fanciful claim without a whole bunch of extra legal reasoning that's neithe

by gojomo 13y ago

The words "crime" or "prison" don't appear in your links, so they don't support your fanciful claim without a whole bunch of extra legal reasoning that's neither yet provided nor obvious. Are you a lawyer who's defended such cases, or a prosecutor who's charged them? Then I might trust you. I would also as credible evidence accept a reputable media report of a person imprisoned for circumventing a cookie-enforced paywall. It's good practice to clear your cookies and switch browsers occasionally. Do so without fear of imprisonment whenever you wish. (Also, most people here can afford the relevant site subscriptions, so that's another avenue through which they can access such submissions, when they are the best source for a story.)

Rizz 13y ago
The TRIPS agreement requires criminal penalties for willful copyright infringement, art. 61 (and circumvention of technical measures is in all cases I have seen implemented as being a form of copyright infringement) when it occurs on a certain not well defined scale. TRIPS is implemented everywhere except a few muslim countries in Africa and Asia. There almost never is a minimum scale defined in actual implementations. There have been several attempts to sue people in my country, usually settled before any final judgment, for being instrumental in copyright infringement, even if that and the actual infringement occured on limited, loss-incuring scale. I live in the EU, so every web page I visit is required to be logged by ISPs for 6-24 months. Clearing cookies does nothing. I'm more than willing to bet that your law says too that circumventing technical measures is illegal and when done on purpose a criminal act. Admitting to using the privacy mode of your browser to circumvent the paywall is admitting to a crime in many jurisdictions. Sometimes with optional prison terms, otherwise fines that will eventually turn into prison time if they're not paid on time, so prison is certainly an option for using the privacy mode to access NYT. Not likely to be prosecuted, but a crime nonetheless.
- gojomo 13y ago
  Let us know when someone goes to prison for clearing cookies to get around a paywall; it'd surely be a front-page story.
- dryg 13y ago
  "I live in the EU, so every web page I visit is required to be logged by ISPs for 6-24 months. Clearing cookies does nothing." That would be cool! NYT using the ISP logs to control the paywall :) Maybe an addition to http could enable the sending of relevant log data with each request? The future is here.. soon

by gojomo 13y ago

Rizz 13y ago

The TRIPS agreement requires criminal penalties for willful copyright infringement, art. 61 (and circumvention of technical measures is in all cases I have seen implemented as being a form of copyright infringement) when it occurs on a certain not well defined scale. TRIPS is implemented everywhere except a few muslim countries in Africa and Asia. There almost never is a minimum scale defined in actual implementations. There have been several attempts to sue people in my country, usually settled before any final judgment, for being instrumental in copyright infringement, even if that and the actual infringement occured on limited, loss-incuring scale. I live in the EU, so every web page I visit is required to be logged by ISPs for 6-24 months. Clearing cookies does nothing. I'm more than willing to bet that your law says too that circumventing technical measures is illegal and when done on purpose a criminal act. Admitting to using the privacy mode of your browser to circumvent the paywall is admitting to a crime in many jurisdictions. Sometimes with optional prison terms, otherwise fines that will eventually turn into prison time if they're not paid on time, so prison is certainly an option for using the privacy mode to access NYT. Not likely to be prosecuted, but a crime nonetheless.

gojomo 13y ago
Let us know when someone goes to prison for clearing cookies to get around a paywall; it'd surely be a front-page story.
dryg 13y ago
"I live in the EU, so every web page I visit is required to be logged by ISPs for 6-24 months. Clearing cookies does nothing." That would be cool! NYT using the ISP logs to control the paywall :) Maybe an addition to http could enable the sending of relevant log data with each request? The future is here.. soon