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"The aforementioned wife began a pattern of passive aggressive behavior that included sitting close to Horvath, to, as she told TechCrunch, “make a point of int

by soheil 13y ago

"The aforementioned wife began a pattern of passive aggressive behavior that included sitting close to Horvath, to, as she told TechCrunch, “make a point of intimidating” her." Get a freaking life, go sit somewhere else if you see her sitting close to you. And are you a mind-reader? What if she wasn't being "passive aggressive" and just wanted to sit there! Unbelievable how as soon as a woman is involved in tech industry everything blows out of proportion. Again no one is winning, when a woman "stands for her rights", because when you stand up for your rights that means you have to be standing up against someone, that is a male or a female. If you're standing up against a female well you're not helping the women cause. If it's a male you make the industry look even worse than it is by portraying men as monster bullies who will do and say anything to destroy a "woman". The argument against men can only win if we keep repeating the same fairytales that we keep hearing from the likes of her. Geeks building an amazing platform like Github are different than the sexy attractive guys that you see on TV. Their passion lies with technology they are not here to gossip or put anyone down intentionally. We simply have better things to focus on than caring about your petty feelings. We're men building shit! Unless what women see men as changes drastically I don't see how men in positions like this would take women as seriously as other men. And by that I mean you can't think the guy must have a six-pack, not be nerdy, talk to you about your feelings when you're down. This is not reality but this is what women are brainwashed to expect from men in order to even truly respect them as human beings. This is mainly the effects of watching TV and other media, etc. Change your perspective about your enemy (stop calling men your enemies) and see if there is still such huge gender imbalance in tech.

kaoD 13y ago
> What if she wasn't being "passive aggressive" and just wanted to sit there! ...day after day, staring at her, after a weird out of office interaction where she was openly aggressive? The wife was obviously trying to intimidate her and you seem to be the only individual trying to deny it. > If you're standing up against a female well you're not helping the women cause. Women can be sexist bigots just like men. > Geeks [...] are different than the sexy attractive guys that you see on TV. Geeks can be sexy and attractive too. Also: unsexy and unattractive guys can be sexist bigots too. Perhaps even more, since they might subconsciously want to backlash for their lack of sexual attention. > We're men building shit! You're exactly everything that's wrong with this industry. We're not men building shit. We're people building shit. You even intentionally left the girls out of the geek category! How do you think a woman will feel welcome when you tell her to shut up her concerns since "we're men building shit" and she's pretty much disturbing your work? How do you want her to feel she belongs with us? Let me guess that: you don't want to! You say they keep repeating the same fairy tales, but you seem like no fairy to me. - PS: I actually think this whole fiasco is not about sexism and she has disproportionately overblown the issue as gender warfare while it's just corporate politics. I just had to point out you are being sexist.
- soheil 13y ago
  Why expect people to behave the way you want them to? If you don't like where you're sitting move, other people are not responsible for how you feel. Again are you a mind-reader how do you know what her intention was? "Geeks might subconsciously want to backlash for their lack of sexual attention" wow, you have it backwards, not seeking sex by geeks does not mean they're secretly seeking it! Reason you're a geek is because you're dedicated to one thing and spend lots of time doing it and ignoring other things, because everything else has a lower priority. Many "outraged" women in tech and people like you don't seem to get that, it's not a reflection on those women it's a reflection on us. We are men building shit. I am a male I am in tech if I could've make that more specific I would have. You have no right to impose on me what specificity level I wish to use in my speech or writings. You are right I am not a fairy I am real and I will stand up to this non-sense every time I see it. And hope others here are not intimidated by people like you or outraged women in tech or New York Times articles or complete crap pieces on Tech Crunch.

by soheil 13y ago

kaoD 13y ago

> What if she wasn't being "passive aggressive" and just wanted to sit there! ...day after day, staring at her, after a weird out of office interaction where she was openly aggressive? The wife was obviously trying to intimidate her and you seem to be the only individual trying to deny it. > If you're standing up against a female well you're not helping the women cause. Women can be sexist bigots just like men. > Geeks [...] are different than the sexy attractive guys that you see on TV. Geeks can be sexy and attractive too. Also: unsexy and unattractive guys can be sexist bigots too. Perhaps even more, since they might subconsciously want to backlash for their lack of sexual attention. > We're men building shit! You're exactly everything that's wrong with this industry. We're not men building shit. We're people building shit. You even intentionally left the girls out of the geek category! How do you think a woman will feel welcome when you tell her to shut up her concerns since "we're men building shit" and she's pretty much disturbing your work? How do you want her to feel she belongs with us? Let me guess that: you don't want to! You say they keep repeating the same fairy tales, but you seem like no fairy to me. - PS: I actually think this whole fiasco is not about sexism and she has disproportionately overblown the issue as gender warfare while it's just corporate politics. I just had to point out you are being sexist.

soheil 13y ago
Why expect people to behave the way you want them to? If you don't like where you're sitting move, other people are not responsible for how you feel. Again are you a mind-reader how do you know what her intention was? "Geeks might subconsciously want to backlash for their lack of sexual attention" wow, you have it backwards, not seeking sex by geeks does not mean they're secretly seeking it! Reason you're a geek is because you're dedicated to one thing and spend lots of time doing it and ignoring other things, because everything else has a lower priority. Many "outraged" women in tech and people like you don't seem to get that, it's not a reflection on those women it's a reflection on us. We are men building shit. I am a male I am in tech if I could've make that more specific I would have. You have no right to impose on me what specificity level I wish to use in my speech or writings. You are right I am not a fairy I am real and I will stand up to this non-sense every time I see it. And hope others here are not intimidated by people like you or outraged women in tech or New York Times articles or complete crap pieces on Tech Crunch.