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I'm not saying Russia is wrong on everything, and for someone who really dislikes US lately, it makes it very hard for me to try and be on US's side on this aga

I'm not saying Russia is wrong on everything, and for someone who really dislikes US lately, it makes it very hard for me to try and be on US's side on this again, but Russia really isn't making it easy for itself when the only 2 options in the referendum for Crimea secession are: 1) Would you like to join Russia now? 2) Would you like autonomy from Ukraine? I mean, come on! Where's the "No, go away!" option? Russia isn't giving Crimea a choice. It's forcing Crimea into a choice, that's only favorable to Russia. Russia also didn't meet its quorum in Parliament when they decided to invade Crimea, making it illegal by its own laws. So this makes it more like Putin's own quest for more power, than "protecting Russia" or "giving Russia what's theirs" (which Crimea isn't - we settled this a long time ago). You can't come after decades and say "hey, you know that land that we lost decades ago? Yeah, that's ours. Give it back! This combined with tyrannical leaders' "egoes" are what have always made for stupid and completely unnecessary wars.

kostyk 13y ago
I believe it's 1) Would you like to join Russia 2) Would you like to stay in Ukraine. No?
- kybernetyk 13y ago
  No, it's not. That's the joke about the "referendum". The options are: Split from Ukraine and become part of Russia - or just split from Ukraine.
  - mladenkovacevic 13y ago
    Yeah that joke is part of the western propaganda that tries to distill something not so simple into something that can be captured and made fun of in internet-meme format. The options are: "Are you in favor of the reunification of Crimea with Russia as a part of the Russian Federation?" And "Are you in favor of restoring the 1992 Constitution and the status of Crimea as a part of Ukraine?" One option quite clearly is for joining Russia, while the other option quite clearly is for staying within Ukraine, albeit with increased autonomy (the loss of which in the past was hugely unpopular)
    - denis1 13y ago
      according to the 1992 constitution Crimea can declare independence and then unite with Russia. How is that any different from 1?

kostyk 13y ago

I believe it's 1) Would you like to join Russia 2) Would you like to stay in Ukraine. No?

kybernetyk 13y ago
No, it's not. That's the joke about the "referendum". The options are: Split from Ukraine and become part of Russia - or just split from Ukraine.
- mladenkovacevic 13y ago
  Yeah that joke is part of the western propaganda that tries to distill something not so simple into something that can be captured and made fun of in internet-meme format. The options are: "Are you in favor of the reunification of Crimea with Russia as a part of the Russian Federation?" And "Are you in favor of restoring the 1992 Constitution and the status of Crimea as a part of Ukraine?" One option quite clearly is for joining Russia, while the other option quite clearly is for staying within Ukraine, albeit with increased autonomy (the loss of which in the past was hugely unpopular)
  - denis1 13y ago
    according to the 1992 constitution Crimea can declare independence and then unite with Russia. How is that any different from 1?